View Poll Results: The Best English Composer? (excluding modernists)

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  • Edward Elgar

    20 28.99%
  • Henry Purcell

    12 17.39%
  • William Byrd

    10 14.49%
  • Thomas Tallis

    6 8.70%
  • Ralph Vaughan-Williams

    21 30.43%
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    Some will assert Purcell as the greatest, others perhaps Elgar.. surely these assertions are blown away by one name? William Byrd. Some have named Byrd the greatest composer of the late Renaissance - I would name him the greatest of the entire renaissance. His three catholic masses are to Palestrina's like Bach's motets are to Telemann's. His keyboard works are without parallel throughout the entire era.
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    I haven't listened to enough of composers other than Elgar to offer a relevant vote but what about Handel,or Delius?
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    Of the choices, I picked Vaughan Williams, whose major successes across a wide range of styles and forms would seem to qualify him for the accolade. I'm nor sure where your cut-off for "modernist" is, but I was surprised not to see Dowland, Delius, Holst, or Britten as options. I can't say I was surprised to not see the unduly neglected Granville Bantock, but I think he deserves as much consideration as Purcell or Tallis.

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    Handel is German, Delius is worse the RVW -

    Britten, I'm putting him in the 'modernist' category, along with Tippett, Birtwistle, Ferneyhough etc.
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    I like all of these composers, Britten too (I think him one of the greatest opera
    composers certainly of 20th century). I voted too for William Byrd: his music really
    moves me too-- very beautiful. I suppose Vaughn Williams would be next for his
    variety. Lately I've come to enjoy some of Howells choral music.

    Ed

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    I voted Vaughan-Williams since John Dowland and Ian Anderson were not on the list . He did compose what is probably my favorite piece of all time,

    I do like Byrd a great deal. Purcell rarely grabs my attention. Henry Tudor wasn't too shabby (as a composer) if he did indeed write "Greensleeves," or is that a myth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Handel is German, Delius is worse the RVW
    Wasn't Handel a nationalised brit,that is born in Germany but became a British citizen?
    And Delius,an ex pat?
    But what do you mean he's worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    ...Delius is worse the RVW...
    Poor Delius...lol...Serves him right for disliking Mozart...
    I voted Byrd, there is no doubt, didn't even consider Purcell although I like him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Wasn't Handel a nationalised brit,that is born in Germany but became a British citizen?
    And Delius,an ex pat?
    But what do you mean he's worse?
    Not as good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Not as good?
    In your opinion of course. I could never say a composer that someone loves is not as good as one I like-music is very subjective. I don't particularly like Bach's music but then I've only heard a little out of an immense output(i want to hear more Bach) Of the little bach that I do have I would say I prefer Handel or Telemann,but would hesitate to say Handel is better than Bach etc.
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    I'd vote Holst if he was there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    In your opinion of course. I could never say a composer that someone loves is not as good as one I like-music is very subjective. I don't particularly like Bach's music but then I've only heard a little out of an immense output(i want to hear more Bach) Of the little bach that I do have I would say I prefer Handel or Telemann,but would hesitate to say Handel is better than Bach etc.
    Because that would be wrong.
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    I'd vote Holst if he was there!
    He had one good work..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bach View Post
    Because that would be wrong.
    And yet you gladly say that bach is better than Handel or Telemann.
    Oh i see whats happening here. Not biting,nope.
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    William Lawes.

    And John Dowland.

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