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    Question Sopranos performing tenor arias?

    Hello everyone, this is my first post, thanks for having me.

    I'm curious if anyone can recommend any audio/video on this here internet of sopranos performing tenor arias, or bass/baratone arias, either live or in the studio.

    I know Callas sang fragments during her Julliard sessions, which is great. I have also just watched a video of Anne Sofie von Otter singing Der Erlkönig, which i have mixed feelings about. Anyone have any favourites or rarities?

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    Since you mentioned Der Erlkönig, have you checked out Rosa Ponselle version? It was in her later years, but the voice was still impressive nevertheless. The lower part of the voice was so well-supported.



    Here is another freaky feat from her: singing a gypsy song for male, she sounded like a tenor or even a baritone:

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    Simply check out all masterclasses on You Tube, almost all soprono's teaching males to sing, with some strophes included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentio View Post
    Since you mentioned Der Erlkönig, have you checked out Rosa Ponselle version? It was in her later years, but the voice was still impressive nevertheless. The lower part of the voice was so well-supported.



    Here is another freaky feat from her: singing a gypsy song for male, she sounded like a tenor or even a baritone:

    I knew it! I have NEVER considered Ponselle a true soprano. Wish she would have recorded more in this range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalalaikaBoy View Post
    I knew it! I have NEVER considered Ponselle a true soprano. Wish she would have recorded more in this range.
    I think she was a contralto. She even said herself that she could have sung mezzo repertoire as she had the low notes. I may be wrong, but I don't think she sang higher than a C. She had a wonderful career as a soprano and brought her impressive technique, interpretative gifts and sublime musicianship to pretty much everything she sang. I'm sure she would have been a star no matter the roles and repertoire she had chosen to sing.

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    Give a listen to Songs of the Xtabay with Yma Sumac. You'll get plenty of what you are seeking.

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    Ponsella was something else! Thanks for those clips.

    I know that Orlofsky in Fledermaus doesn't meet your strict requirements (it's a "trouser" role), but Brigitte Fassbaender is wonderful here:


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    Quote Originally Posted by nina foresti View Post
    Give a listen to Songs of the Xtabay with Yma Sumac. You'll get plenty of what you are seeking.
    That Tumpa sung........hilarious.
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    This one pretty much speaks for itself ... whatever that is!



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    Quote Originally Posted by BalalaikaBoy View Post
    I knew it! I have NEVER considered Ponselle a true soprano. Wish she would have recorded more in this range.
    There have been a number of great sopranos who lacked a good high C ( Tebaldi, Traubel, J. Norman, later Flagstad), so in my opinion that doesn't disqualify Ponselle as a soprano. In fact many consider her one of the most spectacular sopranos of all time. At the same time she had a whole extra octave below the normal soprano range that was perfectly integrated with the top and would have allowed her to sing mezzo and contralto arias easily. Whether she could sustain singing regularly in that lower register without damaging the exquisite soprano range is not something which I think we could answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentio View Post
    Since you mentioned Der Erlkönig, have you checked out Rosa Ponselle version? It was in her later years, but the voice was still impressive nevertheless. The lower part of the voice was so well-supported.



    Here is another freaky feat from her: singing a gypsy song for male, she sounded like a tenor or even a baritone:

    Why can't I see anything but a big black square?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callasfan View Post
    Hello everyone, this is my first post, thanks for having me.

    I'm curious if anyone can recommend any audio/video on this here internet of sopranos performing tenor arias, or bass/baratone arias, either live or in the studio.

    I know Callas sang fragments during her Julliard sessions, which is great. I have also just watched a video of Anne Sofie von Otter singing Der Erlkönig, which i have mixed feelings about. Anyone have any favourites or rarities?

    Thanks,

    Callasfan
    from what I understand, Der Erklkonig is for bass/baritone, not tenor (though lieder isn't so string about differences in voice or even gender).

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    I wonder if OP #takinthemick with this thread .

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