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    Has anyone mentioned the 1949 recording with di Stefano, Kirsten, Tajo and Warren? It's brilliant even with the poor sound.
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    The recording beloe was recommended to me as an excellent if not the best of all Fausts. Anyone knows it?
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    I am actually fond of this one along with the Steber, Siepi, Conley, Cleva mentioned earlier by Rogerx.
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    In a few weeks time there comes a new list with favorite performances, in the meanwhile search for the 2015 list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitellioScarpia View Post
    I am actually fond of this one along with the Steber, Siepi, Conley, Cleva mentioned earlier by Rogerx.
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    Thats is a whole different league Steber/ Caball.e
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    Did you all know that the Cluytens Faust (Gedda, Christoff, Faust) is actually TWO recordings: there was a Mono recording in 1955 (I believe) and the later Stereo in 1958? Both have been published on CD. I have not heard either of them... Remember that at the time Walter Legge did not believe in Stereo and EMI did not start recording in Stereo until 1958 (the Rosenkavalier of 1956 excepted).
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitellioScarpia View Post
    Did you all know that the Cluytens Faust (Gedda, Christoff, Faust) is actually TWO recordings: there was a Mono recording in 1955 (I believe) and the later Stereo in 1958? Both have been published on CD. I have not heard either of them... Remember that at the time Walter Legge did [I]not believe[/I in Stereo and EMI did not start recording in Stereo until 1958 (the Rosenkavalier of 1956 excepted).
    That was not unusual , Decca did the same, you could see it at the prefix on the covers.
    LET was Mono - SXL was Stereo

    I looked it up, special for you, as you are so kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitellioScarpia View Post
    Did you all know that the Cluytens Faust (Gedda, Christoff, Faust) is actually TWO recordings: there was a Mono recording in 1955 (I believe) and the later Stereo in 1958? Both have been published on CD. I have not heard either of them... Remember that at the time Walter Legge did not believe in Stereo and EMI did not start recording in Stereo until 1958 (the Rosenkavalier of 1956 excepted).
    This is true, but I'm not sure this one was down to Legge. I think EMI was a bit late on the stereo bus generally. As far as I'm aware Walter Legge didn't have anything to do with the two Cluytens recordigs. The stereo one was produced by René Challan.

    As for Der Rosenkavalier, the stereo was a test version, engineered by Christopher Parker, who oversaw the latest re-mastering for Warner in their Legendary Opera Recordings series, which really sounds astonishingly good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitellioScarpia View Post
    Did you all know that the Cluytens Faust (Gedda, Christoff, Faust) is actually TWO recordings: there was a Mono recording in 1955 (I believe) and the later Stereo in 1958? Both have been published on CD. I have not heard either of them... Remember that at the time Walter Legge did not believe in Stereo and EMI did not start recording in Stereo until 1958 (the Rosenkavalier of 1956 excepted).
    I did know that and they have almost identical casts. I have only ever had the 1958 recording and did listen to the earlier one on YouTube because I have read somewhere that Christoff is better in the earlier set, but I couldn't really hear much difference. (I didn't listen to the two recordings back to back, though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    That was not unusual , Decca did the same, you could see it at the prefix on the covers.
    LET was Mono - SXL was Stereo

    I looked it up, special for you, as you are so kind.
    Was that a mono and a stereo issue of the same recording, though? The two Fausts are two different recordings, the second being a stereo remake with almost the same cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    This is true, but I'm not sure this one was down to Legge. I think EMI was a bit late on the stereo bus generally. As far as I'm aware Walter Legge didn't have anything to do with the two Cluytens recordigs. The stereo one was produced by René Challan.

    As for Der Rosenkavalier, the stereo was a test version, engineered by Christopher Parker, who oversaw the latest re-mastering for Warner in their Legendary Opera Recordings series, which really sounds astonishingly good.
    With the Rosenkavalier there were two separate sets of engineers

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I did know that and they have almost identical casts. I have only ever had the 1958 recording and did listen to the earlier one on YouTube because I have read somewhere that Christoff is better in the earlier set, but I couldn't really hear much difference. (I didn't listen to the two recordings back to back, though).

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    I only have the 1958 recording. In fact it's the only one I own, though I've heard others, none of which I like as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Was that a mono and a stereo issue of the same recording, though? The two Fausts are two different recordings, the second being a stereo remake with almost the same cast.

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    No sir, just a example from recital discs from boxes I figuring out how the box sets where numbered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Was that a mono and a stereo issue of the same recording, though? The two Fausts are two different recordings, the second being a stereo remake with almost the same cast.

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    To be precise, I am talking about Decca recordings, the early opera recording where numbered as MET ( mono) en SET ( stereo)
    as prefix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    To be precise, I am talking about Decca recordings, the early opera recording where numbered as MET ( mono) en SET ( stereo)
    as prefix.
    These were presumably recorded in Stereo and then released in both formats until mono playback equipment became obsolete? Or did they actually record a mono version at the same time from a different mic?

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