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    Most living rooms soak up a lot of bass, because of heavy furniture and carpeting, so I like EQ to crank up the bass. Either that, or just turn up the subwoofers if you've got 'em.
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    Finally found this thread again. I'm just wondering, how do you know what the right sound is when adjusting on an equalizer? Do you adjust it to what just sounds pleasant, or is there some more precise method of doing this?

    I know when I've heard certain pieces performed live the percussion seems to be way more noticeable than on any recording.

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    Back when I was a wee tadpole I had one of these, and fiddled with it endlessly. Eventually I settled into a curve that was mostly right for most recordings. Occasionally I boosted the bass on a thin recording, or boosted the highs when playing a cassette.

    But, when doing that, I noticed the distortion went up. You can't just flatten a missing frequency and have everything return to normal. It's like trying to make stereo out of mono: there's missing information.

    As I migrated to better speakers and a better room and better electronics, I found my equalizer getting less and less use, until I finally retired it completely. My current thinking is, EQ is a stopgap measure, a temporary fix when there are other problems. It's not a permanent solution to anything.

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    I've never used one. It's just another component in the chain to degrade the sound. Especially since most people by cheap ones. I've got some nice B&W floor standing speakers which sound great with the tone control circuitry turned off.
    “Music makes you feel feelings. Words make you think thoughts. But a song can make you feel a thought.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalieriIsInnocent View Post
    Equalizers : Yay or Nay?.
    Nay

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    I've got some nice B&W floor standing speakers
    which model?

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    B&W CDM 7SE
    I bought them 20 years ago.
    “Music makes you feel feelings. Words make you think thoughts. But a song can make you feel a thought.”

    - Yip Harburg

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    I try to get that transparent widow into the recording session. I want to hear exactly what was recorded. You can never add information, and how much you can 'extract' depends more upon the depth of your wallet than anything else. Headphone based systems accomplish this without having to worry about the room's effect. 3D listening spaces often require room treatment with acoustic listening panels. When this isn't feasible, room correction software is a great option.
    The 5.1 set up in my living room is dialed in with Anthem's ARC Room Correction Software. After that the music is served up as recorded...NO EQ. My headphone rig plays exactly what was recorded...NO EQ.
    I love music. I want music. I need music.

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    I use Sony's equalizer for its wireless headphones - an absolute necessity for me. Otherwise, I don't use equalization. I do wonder if the digital equalizers (such as the one included in JRiver) add to distortion, as opposed to just changing the tonal balance. Maybe some people think the two are identical, but there may be instances where my taste differs from that of the sound engineer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe B View Post
    I try to get that transparent widow into the recording session.
    Wouldn't a "transparent widow" herself be a ghost, and therefore also dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocopilot View Post
    wouldn't a "transparent widow" herself be a ghost, and therefore also dead?
    !!!!!!!! yikes !!!!!!!!
    I love music. I want music. I need music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I use Sony's equalizer for its wireless headphones - an absolute necessity for me. Otherwise, I don't use equalization.
    Same here, although I don't use Sony headphones. I do use a couple of different pairs of wireless earbuds from companies that provide an equalizer in their app, to correct what I think are flaws in the earbuds' sound signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    B&W CDM 7SE
    I bought them 20 years ago.
    .......Nice.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malx View Post
    .......Nice.......
    Best speakers I've owned. Not one problem in 20 years. I can't say that about others I've owned by KEF, and AR.
    “Music makes you feel feelings. Words make you think thoughts. But a song can make you feel a thought.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Best speakers I've owned. Not one problem in 20 years. I can't say that about others I've owned by KEF, and AR.
    I can only dream - speakers like those are way above my budget and to be fair would be overkill in our small home.
    Glad your are enjoying them.

    On the thread topic I have never felt the need to have an equaliser, believing the basic rule of minimise the number of components between source and speakers.

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