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    Quote Originally Posted by shirime View Post
    Oh yea this is excellent. Once we delve into spectralism and non-spectral approaches to microtonal music (like maybe Limited Approximations by Haas as another example) then there'd be a lot of good and fitting stuff to include in this thread.
    I love this! Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart555 View Post
    No classical music is psychedelic, that's not the point of it.

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    I've always felt that Holst's "The Planets" was psychedelic.

    Pondering the cosmos is, in itself, a rather psychedelic pursuit. For example, Pink Floyd's "Astronomy Domine" and "Set The Controls For The Center Of The Sun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    I've always felt that Holst's "The Planets" was psychedelic.
    Well, the planets themselves are - ahem - 'far out'...
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

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    It's a bit of a stretch, but Beethoven's Pastoral 6th Symphony comes off as the serene portions of an acid trip.

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    Hey Guys! I am listening a lot of music from Messiaen, Scriabin and Debussy lately and i am.trying to find some origins with psychedelia of the 60's but i am struggling between my perception and the intetion of the composer . Still i am.wondering , is it pointless to connect these composers with psychedelia? I mean, in the stricked musicological sense, we don't have clear proof of connections. As i noticed from the comments each of us concieves psychedelia from his own musical taste
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    I agree with those who've mentioned Messaien and Ligeti - they are the first that come to mind for me as having a 'psychedelic' quality to their music. Another is Saariaho (whom I think of as a sort of successor to Messiaen) - I find her music to be absolutely other-worldly. And I'd also add Charles Ives to this list.

    Scriabin and Debussy I don't find so - perhaps being a pianist and having studied and played both of their works for so many years has something to do with that - their musical language sounds very familiar and even conventional to me at this point in my life. So I agree with Manos' post above - a lot of how we perceive music has to do with our own musical background that we bring to it. A psychedelic experience is almost by definition an experience of something strange and new and inexplicable, so it makes sense that one would be more likely to get this experience from unfamiliar music, and that could vary greatly between different listeners and different cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomyum2 View Post
    I agree with those who've mentioned Messaien and Ligeti - they are the first that come to mind for me as having a 'psychedelic' quality to their music. Another is Saariaho (whom I think of as a sort of successor to Messiaen) - I find her music to be absolutely other-worldly.

    Scriabin and Debussy I don't find so - perhaps being a pianist and having studied and played both of their works for so many years has something to do with that - their musical language sounds very familiar and even conventional to me at this point in my life. So I agree with Manos' post above - a lot of how we perceive music has to do with our own musical background that we bring to it. A psychedelic experience is almost by definition an experience of something strange and new and inexplicable, so it makes sense that one would be more likely to get this experience from unfamiliar music, and that could vary greatly between different listeners and different cultures.
    Thomyum, thanks for the reply! I am a pianist too and i am trying to combine a programm ---that has psychedelic elements-between songs of psychedelic music of the 60's and pieces of contemporary music that has been an influence to psychedelia or was inspired by psychedelia. If you have anything particular in mind that would be very helpful. Certeanly, Debussy is more conventional (perhaps some preludes can be considered) but maybe there is an inner connection from Debussy,Satie, Messiean, Scriabin to psychedelia and other composers. The composers are just some that come in mind. Maybe also Rautavaraa , Stockhausen , John Adams ect.. The thing is that is there is no proof of this connection but only our perception and istinct.
    Perhaps psychedelia has to do with something more kind of holistic in terms of programming.

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    Psychedelic to me is colorful, energetic, kaleidoscopic, otherworldly, alien etc.
    Sound, harmony, texture, atmosphere, such things are very important for psychedelic effect. Different music can be psychedelic to different people.

    How about Roslavets?
    This piece is like having a fever dream inside a glowworm cave.

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    Morton Feldman's music is very psychedelic.

    Long, unstructured, calmly dissonant, mysterious.

    He is my favorite composer of all time.

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