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    Default Mahler 8--What recordings do you own?

    I have Bernstein NYP, Gielen, Olson (Conductor for Colorado Mahlerfest at the time it was recorded), Shaw, and Solti. This has been a tough symphony for me to get into, but as I collect more recordings and come back to it from time to time, I am gaining a greater appreciation for it.

    This is the Mahlerfest set I have. It is Mahlerfest VIII and since we are now on Mahlerfest XXXI, this one would date to 1995.
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    Too many recordings here, I'm afraid, Fritz! Nearly all are in boxed sets, admittedly these did manage to swallow up the individual recordings I had as well. I think the only standalone recordings I have are the older Gielen Sony set and Colin Davis on RCA (the former is a gem, the latter is remarkable for its blandness, alas).

    I am afraid I am going for two or three very fine recordings amongst these that are favourites, all of which are probably very predictable. Firstly Solti's famous one, which remains my favourite; but if I want a bit more spirituality - at the expense of excitement - I very much enjoy Tennstedt's, and also Sinopoli's.

    Regrettably it is almost certainly my least liked of the Mahler canon, and only when it is given out as a real "occasion" does it come off. Brilliant to see/hear it live, which I have done twice: once at a prom many moons ago, but also in Prague Cathedral, which was a really fantastic experience, partly helped by the unintentionally well-timed rumbles of thunder from outside on a stormy April evening!

    The only Robert Olson recording I have is of Mahler 10, done in a not-Cooke version, which I really like. It has a much more chamber-music scoring to it, something debatably reflecting the direction Mahler might have been going in?
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    This is the only recording of the No.8 I own: the studio Tennstedt recording is one of the best I've ever listened to only challenged by the Tennstedt live recording and the famous Solti in Chicago. It's often difficult to juge all of them. If I wanted to own another recording of the symphony, that would ve the live recording in the LPO label.

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    The 8th is my least favorite of the symphonies, too. It has it's great moments, to be sure. But the first 2/3 or so of the 2nd movement just goes so slowly. Even in live performance I just don't love it like the other symphonies. As an incurable Mahler collector, I have too many 8ths; some 20 or more. Any recording that won't fit on one CD is too long. But even one-disk versions aren't necessarily good. Jarvi's on BIS is shallow, glib, uninvolving. Solti's is pretty exciting, but it's a Frankenstein of a recording. I love the old Wyn Morris recording from RCA in 1972 - slower than most, but he really builds the tension. Maazel is just routine - he didn't seem to really enjoy it, either. Stokowski with NY in 1950 is quite exciting, but of course the dim mono sound doesn't even begin to reveal the score in its glory. I like the Kubelik DG recording: quick and no-nonsense. Did anyone, ever, capture as much ecstatic brilliance as he did in the coda of the first movement?

    If I had to keep only one, it's a new one: from Utah with Thierry Fischer and the Utah Symphony on Reference Recordings. Extraordinary sound - play it loud on a good system. And the interpretation is as good as it gets. It is a 2-disk version, but played this way it works. The Utah orchestra plays the symphony as well as any of the big-name orchestras and the conducting is also tops.
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    Aside from the recordings in box-set symphony cycles, I have these 6 recordings of the 8th.
    They are:
    - Symphonica of London / Wyn Morris (imvho one of the very best M8 recordings)
    - Warsaw National Philharmonic / Antoni Wit
    - MahlerFest Orchestra / Robert Olsen (the same recording as yours from MahlerFest VIII but with different cover, recorded on january 14-15, 1995)
    - CBSO / Rattle
    - LSO / Gergiev (the live St Pauls Cathedral recording from 2008)
    - Deutsches Symphonie Orchester, Berlin / Kent Nagano

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    I have the live Tennstedt recording on dvd (transferred from VHS tape), and it really is a corker!
    There may come a time when Youtube won't let us do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by techniquest View Post
    Aside from the recordings in box-set symphony cycles, I have these 6 recordings of the 8th.
    They are:
    - Symphonica of London / Wyn Morris (imvho one of the very best M8 recordings)
    - Warsaw National Philharmonic / Antoni Wit
    - MahlerFest Orchestra / Robert Olsen (the same recording as yours from MahlerFest VIII but with different cover, recorded on january 14-15, 1995)
    - CBSO / Rattle
    - LSO / Gergiev (the live St Pauls Cathedral recording from 2008)
    - Deutsches Symphonie Orchester, Berlin / Kent Nagano

    I have the live Tennstedt recording on dvd (transferred from VHS tape), and it really is a corker!
    How do you like the Mahlerfest recording?
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    I have lots and lots of Mahler 8ths but like none of them. I just can't bear the 8th. I like or love all Mahler's other symphonies but the 8th does nowt for me. Oh hang on, I don't like the 3rd much either.
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    Solti
    Chailly/Concertgebouw
    Chailly/Gewandhaus (on Blu-ray)
    Bernstein (on DVD)
    Nagano
    Tennstedt (studio one)

    The main problem obtaining more M8 recordings is the benchmark that has been set so high (Solti). Definitely looking for more, as M8 is one of my favorites.

    If they are going to release THIS on DVD I will grab it right away!


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    Like other posters the 8th is my least favourite Mahler symphony but I have still managed to accumulate nine versions- four of them in box sets. Most recently I have listened to Bernstein's LSO recording; the DSD remastering has greatly improved the sound but the work still eluded me. In so far that I have a favourite it would be between Chailly (Concertgebouw) and Nagano. I will have to give Kubelik another try sometime; I have it as part of the complete cycle and only listened to it once. I can't share the enthusiasm for Solti - too noisy and frenzied in Part I.

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    I'm like everyone else. I have a few because I have a few complete sets. It is not a work I like particularly. But, perhaps, one day I will give it a proper go and try to get into it. It is too hot at the moment.

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    I have Solti, Tennstedt, Sinopoli, Abbado, Morris, Stokowski, Scherchen, Flipse, and Mitropoulos, but my two favorites are:



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    I'm not a massive fan of the 8th. Ironic in a way, as it was the first Mahler symphony I bought. Why I have as many recordings of it as I do the other symphonies is purely in the interests of symmetry, I suppose. In the final analysis I probably have about four too many, so if I had to get rid of half of them I'd probably hold on to the Solti, Kubelik, Horenstein and Tennstedt recordings.

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    Solti (Decca)
    Bernstein (Sony)
    Rattle (EMI)
    Tennstedt (EMI)
    Sinopoli (DG)
    Horenstein (BBC)
    Chailly (Decca)
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    I think the problem is that the Eighth is overwhelmingly choral. I have the same problem with Mendelssohn's 2nd. I am not huge on choral music, much preferring solo, duet or even quartet, but not so much into full choir, which on recordings can come off rather noisily and overly loud.
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    I have Abaddo. I used to have a favorite recording, but I lent it to someone a few years ago, and it was never returned, and I've forgotten who the conductor was. You can tell, I don't care much for the 8th. I like the first half, but the text of the second half is kind of silly, so I don't pay much attention to it. So I usually stop before the second part.

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    Like many of you others, I find the Mahler 8th to be the least listened to (by me) of the Mahler symphonies, though I do have several versions on my shelf (maybe a dozen) and I have the full score of the work and occasionally read through it as I listen to a performance. I simply do not find it as musically intriguing as the other symphonies. It isn't necessarily the choral element or the texts. I remain a big Goethe fan from my theatre days. And I relish Mahler's vocal symphonies and songs. The eighth remains overwhelming and is a lot to grasp on any one hearing. Still, I would not have wanted to live a life devoid of the knowledge (and sound) of this astounding masterpiece. Maybe I just prefer the 4th or 1st or 5th or 2nd or 3rd or 9th or another one more than I do the 8th. My loss.

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