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    Quote Originally Posted by Malx View Post
    A set I don't see mentioned much that I have a liking for is the box by Ensemble Orchestral de Paris conducted by John Nelson.

    This is probably a stupid question but here we go - do you have/know it?
    I know the cycle and its top of my list to get but I couldn't review it cos I've only heard the disc with symphonies 7&8 on it (which was very good). Its one of a number of cycles I've still yet to get but it's a bit pricey. I'm still going thru another 6 sets of LvB at the moment so they'll make up part 6 of this series. I won't say what they are. You'll have to wait.
    Ps. I'm aware it's on one of the streaming sites but I can't be bothered. I need to live with it for a few weeks to do it justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I know the cycle and its top of my list to get but I couldn't review it cos I've only heard the disc with symphonies 7&8 on it (which was very good). Its one of a number of cycles I've still yet to get but it's a bit pricey. I'm still going thru another 6 sets of LvB at the moment so they'll make up part 6 of this series. I won't say what they are. You'll have to wait.
    Ps. I'm aware it's on one of the streaming sites but I can't be bothered. I need to live with it for a few weeks to do it justice.
    No problem Merl - when the opportunity arises I'm sure you'll be interested to hear it.
    I appreciate it isn't the easiest set to get at a reasonable price. I was extremely fortunate to pick it up last summer after patiently waiting for a couple of years - a new set for £12.89 + P&P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malx View Post
    No problem Merl - when the opportunity arises I'm sure you'll be interested to hear it.
    I appreciate it isn't the easiest set to get at a reasonable price. I was extremely fortunate to pick it up last summer after patiently waiting for a couple of years - a new set for £12.89 + P&P.
    It gets very mixed reviews..... From excellent to average. Not heard that 7th and 8th for a few years so when I do get a copy of it I'll be interested to see what I think. If you see it going cheap on CD or digital download let me know, Malx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    It gets very mixed reviews..... From excellent to average. Not heard that 7th and 8th for a few years so when I do get a copy of it I'll be interested to see what I think. If you see it going cheap on CD or digital download let me know, Malx.
    I certainly will!

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    I agree with Merl's assessment on all but Norrington's first cycle with the London Classical Players. That cycle is abysmal and belongs with the worst of the worst in my book...

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    Quote Originally Posted by realdealblues View Post
    I agree with Merl's assessment on all but Norrington's first cycle with the London Classical Players. That cycle is abysmal and belongs with the worst of the worst in my book...
    Lol, I was probably being kind.

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    I have always disliked HIP performances of Beethoven symphonies. (I'm now listening to Krivine and Immerseel and they seem to be an improvement over older sets, although I haven't come to final judgements.)

    There is nothing I like in Hogwood, Gardiner, Harnoncourt, Zinman, Abbado and others. However, to be contrary, I do like and think Norrington's LCP Nos. 2 & 8 are very good (somewhat scratchy sound aside). Very Szell like (and Szell didn't have great sound either in the CDs I've heard). The rest of the set (aside from an okay 3rd) is, I agree, completely disposable.
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    I've got 3 HIP sets on the go at the moment but none are complete so I can't review them. The Dausgaard sounds really good but I'm missing 3 symphonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realdealblues View Post
    I agree with Merl's assessment on all but Norrington's first cycle with the London Classical Players. That cycle is abysmal and belongs with the worst of the worst in my book...
    Amen on Norrington's first cycle. Merl, You mentioned that you were charitable with the B- grade. But even a C grade or even a D grade would have been charitable. But then you rate his second cycle an A*? Roger went from horrible to sublime??? You have peaked my interest. I will have to listen to it and will try to do so with an open mind, but I'm wary to see anyone have that big of a jump.

    I reviewer whom I have great respect for and who's taste is very simpatico to mine thought the Skrowaczewski cycle wasn't anything to write home about. I trusted him at his word so never bothered to look into it. Perhaps if you had given it a B- or even a B+ I still wouldn't. But an A*? That's high praise. I'll have to see how simpatico our ears are. Thanks for all the work involved in this.

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