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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    I'm a little unclear about how to use a music streaming device. My computer and audio system are in two different rooms. I know I need a streamer, such as this Cambridge Audio, to run through my audio system:



    And it would wirelessly connect to my computer (I hope!). So, then I connect to the streaming service on my computer, such as Primephonic, then what? How would I direct the Cambridge to communicate with my computer? Would I be able to search for the music I want to hear via the Cambridge? Would it use a remote app? Help!
    Here's a link to the Cambridge Audio Manual download page.

    https://techsupport.cambridgeaudio.c...451.1537097768

    From what I can read in the product description, it does not appear that you can stream directly from Primephonic to the CA product (as opposed to Spotify and Tidal, from which you can stream directly).
    It looks like you can stream from your iDevice to the CA product using Apple Airplay. From the support page:

    You can play any streaming service on your network player using AirPlay from a compatible Apple device.

    Choose “More Devices” and select the Apple AirPlay icon from within your chosen App, Control Centre or iTunes (PC/Mac) and select your Network Player.

    Compatible Streaming Services: Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, YouTube Music, Deezer, Amazon Music etc.
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    Thanks. I just used it as an example--I'll search for a Primephonic compatible device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    Thanks. I just used it as an example--I'll search for a Primephonic compatible device.
    That may be a challenge as of now.

    https://primephonichelp.zendesk.com/...y-sound-system

    Let us know if you find one.

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    Airplay sends audio data in Apple Lossless format. If 44.1KHz/16-bit is good enough for you, then there should be no difference between direct (from Internet to 851N, for example) and indirect (through Airplay). Airplay downsamples A high-res 24-bit stream (which primephonic seems to support) to 16-bit.

    If you want to stream audio better than Apple Lossless, and if you cannot place computer close to the amplifier, probably an easier way is to get a cheap computer and connect it to Internet and a good DAC through USB. The computer connected to DAC/amp can be controlled remotely from another computer.

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    I keep getting ads on my phone for Idagio, which claims to be "a music streaming service designed specifically for classical music lovers." Anyone have any experience with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gardibolt View Post
    I keep getting ads on my phone for Idagio, which claims to be "a music streaming service designed specifically for classical music lovers." Anyone have any experience with them?
    No, I haven't heard heard about it. NML is devoted to classical. I use Spotify Premium. I like to have rock n roll and jazz and classical and whatever you can think of for a small amount every month. Some prefer tidal or Qobuz, but I haven't tried those.

    Here is a comparison of some streaming services:
    https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/s...aming-services
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    I'm a little unclear about how to use a music streaming device. My computer and audio system are in two different rooms. I know I need a streamer, such as this Cambridge Audio, to run through my audio system:



    And it would wirelessly connect to my computer (I hope!). So, then I connect to the streaming service on my computer, such as Primephonic, then what? How would I direct the Cambridge to communicate with my computer? Would I be able to search for the music I want to hear via the Cambridge? Would it use a remote app? Help!
    Raises the more general, but also more fundamental question: what is the best signal path?

    For example, while I completely understand the appeal of CDs in classical, I don't understand the appeal of the actual mechanisms that read the bits and bytes of which the music consists!!!

    Why, for example, do we need a laser beam to read the 1s and 0s? Wouldn't it be more accurate to read the wavefile more directly? Similarly with all other extraneous components in the signal chain that stands between the live performance and our eardrums.

    What IS that signal chain, exactly? And, notwithstanding the current state of wifi signal transmissions, wouldn's streaming be in theory perfectly acceptable as long as we get ALL the information (whether that's 128kps or one of the alternative gold standards)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlewisgrant View Post
    Raises the more general, but also more fundamental question: what is the best signal path?

    For example, while I completely understand the appeal of CDs in classical, I don't understand the appeal of the actual mechanisms that read the bits and bytes of which the music consists!!!

    Why, for example, do we need a laser beam to read the 1s and 0s? Wouldn't it be more accurate to read the wavefile more directly? Similarly with all other extraneous components in the signal chain that stands between the live performance and our eardrums.

    What IS that signal chain, exactly? And, notwithstanding the current state of wifi signal transmissions, wouldn's streaming be in theory perfectly acceptable as long as we get ALL the information (whether that's 128kps or one of the alternative gold standards)?
    Many typos here. Mea culpa. Can barely figure out what I'm getting at. And I wrote it (while very much into a bad cold)! So, a little redux: I don't like 128kps. All the highs are gone. 320kps: I can manage that. 44.1 (wav file) even better. So the question/comment is this: as long as the same binary bits and bytes are there, what does it matter what FORM (CD or Streaming) the transmission of the 000s and 1111s takes? The DAC.... THAT of course matters; that's an important part of what I call the "signal chain." But that stage in the signal path is (correct me if I'm wrong) completely independent of the digital source material.....

    Correct?

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    You want to believe the DAC is an important part of the chain. Google Musicians and Hearing Aids. The DAC means that my hearing aids distort the sounds received on the microphone that feeds the hopelessly inadequate DAC. The same sounds streamed to my aids via Bluetooth are just fine. A soft stopped flute starts to warble at middle F with my digital aids. Analog aids are no longer available. I'm researching Bluetooth transmitters to plug into the headphone output of my digital organ, but that sure won't help when I want to listen to a real organ live and not on a recording.

    My reading on the web tells me that the DAC is deliberately chopping the higher frequencies so that voices sound more clear. That sure doesn't help me enjoy music on my instrument or in concert.

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