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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifek View Post
    Here is my personal Top Twenty list:

    1. Unforgiven 1992 (10/10)
    2. Dances with Wolves 1990 (8/10)
    3. Little Big Man 1970 (8/10)
    Those are also my three favorite westerns. Little Big Man would be first on my list - such an epic film.

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    i love the great silence with kinski - also johnny guitar by nick ray
    for something more contemporary I'd go with the homesman by tommy lee jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgars ghost View Post
    The Good, The Bad & The Ugly - great plot with different twists and turns and so atmospheric you can virtually smell the sweat and choke on the dust.
    my favourite western

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    This is a very good western, though it's more of a two hander with Cooper and Kelly. Would have suited a theatrical treatment, especially with the excellent script of Carl Foreman: I just love this exceptionally evocative score from Tiomkin, sung by Tex Ritter: and Zimmerman a great favourite director of mine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8DPEyBWhbY

    Some trivia: Floyd Crosby ASC was the cinematographer on this film; his son, David, was a singer in Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.

    Another great Tiomkin score for a western: actually probably the best - "Rio Bravo" (the first 1:30 minutes here):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9wU...t_radio=1&t=14

    Trivia 1: Hawks had a great relationship with Dimitri Tiomkin and wanted him to score "Hatari" in 1961, after "Rio Bravo". Hawks wanted him to include African musical instruments to fit with the film and Tiomkin said it couldn't be done. Hawks sacked him on the spot and hired Henry Mancini.

    Trivia 2: Leigh Brackett wrote the screenplays for both "Rio Bravo" in 1959 and "El Dorado" in 1966. She complained to Hawks that the latter was simply a re-make of the 1959 film and not as good and Hawks replied, non-plussed, "if they don't like it give 'em their dime back"!!
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    I just found this on U-Tube: the title music from Howard Hawks's "El Dorado" from 1967. Music by Nelson Riddle!! It's not as good a film as "Rio Bravo", on which it is based. I've read a lot of scholarly work on Howard Hawks and "Rio Bravo" in particular. I have adored Howard Hawks all my life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QXhGGOFNko

    At the end of one school year, prior to Christmas, I showed this film to 14y/o boys and girls. This was some years ago. The kids were not used to westerns as these had lost their popularity. At first they turned their noses up because it was a clearly a dated film, but they soon became engaged. A good group of kids, not in the brightest stream; one boy came up to me afterwards and said, "Miss, I really loved that music at the opening of the film. Thanks for showing it".

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    I like Sergio Leone's westerns, especially Once upon a time in the west.

    Not exactly a western, but this is a good documentary about "Wild Bill" Hickok, perhaps the greatest gunfighter.

    https://youtu.be/n_S47TELSJ4

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    wrong thread, sorry.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    wrong thread, sorry.............
    being on talk classical forum means never having to say your sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldiat View Post
    being on talk classical forum means never having to say your sorry
    That's from the movie "Love Story"
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    I'm on the same page as this academic, Molly Haskell, about Howard Hawks and the "Hawksian woman" (Think especially "His Girl Friday"!). (Haskell's husband was the late film critic Andrew Sarris).

    https://www.tiff.net/the-review/moll...hawksian-woman

    (Hawks was mad about Lauren Bacall and during the making of "To Have and Have Not" he and Bogey came to blows!!)

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    How about La Fanciulla del West?

    A few other recommendations:

    If you like the Kurosawa proto-Westerns, Yojimbo. It's basically the source for Leone's "A Fistful of Dollars" and a number of other similar movies. The theme of a ronin samurai roaming from town to town and getting involved in defending the downtrodden generally dovetails well with the Shane/Pale Rider type Westerns.

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    And then for actual Westerns, McCabe and Mrs Miller. It's a Robert Altman movie starring Warren Beatty and Julie Christie.

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    A recent one, by the Coen brothers: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. It features several vignettes with a huge cast, including Tom Waits here as a prospector:

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaHaydnAdventure View Post


    A recent one, by the Coen brothers: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. It features several vignettes with a huge cast, including Tom Waits here as a prospector:

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    Yeah, I really enjoyed the stories in this one.

    Unforgiven is probably the western I've watched most times. It's like an Old Testament parable of how to dispense justice. Really a great heroic tale, and the cast was a bit special too, especially Gene Hackman...
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    I had a strong ''aversion'' towards westerns and ''spaghetti westerns'' in particular when I was younger but now I devour them, especially the 2econd group!!! My favs are likes of

    I like the humour, easy going atmosphere and social notes in them...
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    My current top 10:

    1. There Will be Blood
    2. Unforgiven
    3. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
    4. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
    5. Blazing Saddles
    6. The Searchers
    7. Rio Bravo
    8. For a Few Dollars More
    9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    10. Hell or High Water

    Do y’all consider There Will be Blood to be a Western? IMDB and Letterboxd don’t, but I still think of it as one; it’s in my top ten of all time, so would easily be my favorite Western.
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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned one of the all-time classic westerns, The Gunfighter, starring Gregory Peck as a middle-aged gunfighter trying to go clean. It's a sober, grown-up film with no horse chases or brawls or grand landscapes and, despite its title, hardly any gunplay. Particularly strong are the scenes between the Peck and the town marshal, played by the great Millard Mitchell. Both actors command their scenes. It's also the movie alluded to in Bob Dylan's song ‘Brownsville Girl’.

    Well, there was this movie I seen one time,
    About a man riding 'cross the desert and it starred Gregory Peck.
    He was shot down by a hungry kid trying to make a name for himself.
    The townspeople wanted to crush that kid down and string him up by the neck.

    Well, the marshal, now he beat that kid to a bloody pulp
    as the dying gunfighter lay in the sun and gasped for his last breath.
    Turn him loose, let him go, let him say he outdrew me fair and square,
    I want him to feel what it's like to every moment face his death.


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