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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Yes, it was on my second set of DVDs that I picked that up. I watched a whole set a couple years ago and read the Goodall libretto in a book. In the past month I have watched my second Ring on DVD and am amazed at how much I either missed or forgot. I am glad I have three more Rings on DVD so I can even better understand this great operatic masterpiece. Currently watching Walkure conducted by Haenchen.

    Loge, by the way, is one of my favorite characters.
    He IS a delight, isn't he? He gives the lie to the claim that Wagner lacks humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    He IS a delight, isn't he? He gives the lie to the claim that Wagner lacks humor.
    Indeed! A shame he is limited to Rheingold--although he is there in spirit in the remaining three operas.
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    I have Die Walküre as a 3-disc set in DTS (a form of DVD-audio). Zubin Metha, Bavarian State Orchestra. Ha ha haa!!!

    Die Walküre Zubin 200 dpi .jpeg
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    I love it and have a few versions on dvd, but it's a once a year thing at most. I need a whole week and some Mozart in-between to watch through. However, I do love to blast my favourite parts from YT when I'm ironing or doing dishes.

    Wotan: *having a complete breakdown*
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    It's more than music, it's an experience, especially live. I've been to two complete live Rings (Bayreuth and Seattle), but I don't think I've ever listened to an entire opera on CD in one go before.
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    I recently watched a brilliant presentation of the Ring on Youtube done by Opera North. No props, semi-acted, with the singers in front of the orchestra which is dimly lit behind. It has very understandable subtitles even if a little license is used. I think it's a wonderful way to remind opera goers that there is really so much going on in the orchestra.
    My perfect visually available Ring would be Boulez Das Rheingold and first act of Die Walkure (and to nitpik Waltraute's narrative as well from Gotterdammerung.) The rest would be the Met Ring with Jerusalem and Behrens which has it's faults but is set traditionally without nonsense to distract from the story.

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    Now I have Furtwangler/Orchestra of La Scala 1950 (14 CD).

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    What would you recommend as a beginner's cycle on blu-ray? I just watched Die Walkure on metopera.org last night and wow, what a magnificent experience!

    As one's first set I would like to avoid overly radical staging and would prefer better sound and a lavish production over a top cast. The point is to get myself acquainted with the story so that I can always return to the audio-only great cycles later.

    Thanks in advance!

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    The only traditional staging I know is the Met version from the 90s conducted by Levine (it's only available on DVD). Another good cycle in a not too radical staging (from my memory) would be the Barenboim (also from the 90s) and that has been issued on Blu ray.

    I have to add that there are quite a few cycles on Blu ray that I haven't seen (but I would expect them to be mainly radical stagings).

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    the barenboim la scala ring from 2013 is a largely traditional one with some extra ballet dancers and lots of digital projection. kind of dodgy singing compared to his bayreuth ring, but it's more colorful and fun to watch, i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    the barenboim la scala ring from 2013 is a largely traditional one with some extra ballet dancers and lots of digital projection. kind of dodgy singing compared to his bayreuth ring, but it's more colorful and fun to watch, i think.
    I agree that the production is more interesting than the Bayreuth one, I wasn't sure how traditional/radical to rate it.

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    Thanks for the help!!! Sorry I wasn't clear enough but I was setting the criteria over stringently. To elaborate a bit, when Die Walkure was on the Met's free nightly broadcast I showed the famous Ride to my 6-year old daughter. She was very keen and interested and I told her the story of the Ring and how Wotan wanted it back. I myself would need to learn the storyline so that when I listen to e.g. Solti or Karajan or else later I would know what's going on and my daughter would need colourful visuals to hold her attention. We are inexperienced and wouldn't have a clue if the cast is good. So long as you can still tell it's Norse Mythology it's okay. Based on @howlingfantods Barenboim's La Scala seems to fit the bill. I also seriously considered Mehta's Velancia cycle, too. As a Canuck I have a soft spot for anything even remotely related to Cirque du Soleil. Thanks!

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