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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan1415 View Post
    Merl that was me talking, (the creator of this thread and the person who composed it) I was talking about how the Schoenberg: Suite, Op.29 - Boulez. is absolutely horrifying. Not my own composition haha.
    Hahaha. My bad. I should try reading properly.

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    no problem Is that song even music though? why would someone listen to it.

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    I actually like the piece.
    But I like Beethoven.
    I also like Schoenberg and Boulez.
    I'm impressed that this sounded, to me, more like Ferdinand Ries's Ninth Symphony than Beethoven's Third. But I could be in error.
    I'd like to see a wind, woodwind or string quartet from you. The four voices would be more concentrated and we may get a better grasp of your concepts of form and harmony and counterpoint and all that musical stuff.
    I recall writing a symphony when I was about your age. I wish it had sounded like Ries's Ninth. Alas ...
    Keep studying. And writing.

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    Great effort! Keep it going. MBHAUB and VASKS gave you some excellent advice to follow. Advice that if followed through properly will take time. Do not be in a rush. I especially eagree with MBHAUB's advice on learning instruments in each family. It will not only hone your orchestration, but will open the possibilities that you can't see or hear yet in your orchestration.

    Don't rush, and keep on it. LVB Eroica for sure!

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    Wow, just joined. Read a few threads that almost drove me away. But this is great, honest and compassionate.... Except for lox's Schoenberg bashing ( c'mon lox, give the guy a break, he lived a hundred years ago!). When someone says, ok you want honesty, I cringe, but Mr. Mbhaub just told it like it is, orchestrally speaking. A real teacher.

    As to my own opinion, I, too, just completed my first symphonic work... On an iPad! I am 70, not 15, a veteran non mainstream jazz pianist by training. I, too, quoted LudwigVan, but just four bars!(7th second movement). My advice, an interesting exercise but be an original. If you are intent on writing a symphony, don't waste half of it quoting a dead guy, even if he was the greatest symphonist ever ( just my opinion, of course). More cheap advice: don't worry about what is doable, translatable to a real orchestra for now. It is valuable and necessary if that is where you are headed, but for the present let it be a total act of joyful creation. You are only fifteen! Live a little. Contact your muse. Leave the perfectionism for refining what you have done. Of course I improvised my Synthony in ten days with no knowledge of the cold facts. I would post it but I am not a certified member as of yet. I am sure the criticism will be withering from the masters here. Last piece of advice: the zen master, Shuntyu Suzuki said, to the expert the possibilities are few, to the beginner many. Have a beginner's mind. It's more fun.

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    Ummm, just lost a post with a lot of cheap advice. Here's the gist, get in touch with your heart. Romeo was fifteen. Compose from a place of adventure. Anything is possible... At least on a computer. The zen master Shunryu Suzuki said: to the beginner the possibilities are many, to the expert the possibilities are few. Don't get shut down just yet by the rules. Create! Fly! Crash! Rise again!

    Oh, and cut Schoenberg some slack! The dude lived a hundred years ago. And don't spend half your first, fantastic symphony quoting a dead guy, even if he is probably the greatest symphonist ever. ( just my point of view, you understand)
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