View Poll Results: Which Movie do you Prefer? (Or you think is better)

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  • Raiders of the Lost Ark

    6 26.09%
  • Casablanca

    16 69.57%
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Thread: Raiders of the Lost Ark vs. Casablanca

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    Which has better original music? Take out the Marseillaise and you still have a fine Steiner score that works for Casablanca. But you also have two great songs written specifically for the movie/play: Knock on Wood and As Time Goes By.

    What does ROTLA have? The Indie fanfare...and a Williams score that works, but no songs and it didn't get a Oscar, thereby proving that Casablanca is superior in this aspect...

    ...oh, just a minute. Steiner didn't get an Oscar either, but as both were nominated, let's consider who they lost out to. Steiner to Newman for Song of Bernadette, Williams to Vangelis for Chariots of Fire.

    Not sure that tells us anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
    Which has better original music? Take out the Marseillaise and you still have a fine Steiner score that works for Casablanca. But you also have two great songs written specifically for the movie/play: Knock on Wood and As Time Goes By.

    What does ROTLA have? The Indie fanfare...and a Williams score that works, but no songs and it didn't get a Oscar, thereby proving that Casablanca is superior in this aspect...

    ...oh, just a minute. Steiner didn't get an Oscar either, but as both were nominated, let's consider who they lost out to. Steiner to Newman for Song of Bernadette, Williams to Vangelis for Chariots of Fire.

    Not sure that tells us anything.
    As Time Goes By was written in 1931. But themes from the song are integrated into the score very successfully to enhance mood and story.

    Apparently (we watched the documentary on the dvd) the producers considered replacing 'As Time Goes By' by a specially written song, after the film had been almost completed. But it would have involved recalling Ingrid Bergman and - she'd had her hair cut!
    Last edited by Ingélou; Aug-26-2018 at 08:55.
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    We saw this mentioned on the documentary and it looks good:

    Music begins where words leave off. Music expresses the inexpressible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    As Time Goes By was written in 1931. But themes from the song are integrated into the score very successfully to enhance mood and story.

    Apparently (we watched the documentary on the dvd) the producers considered replacing 'As Time Goes By' by a specially written song, after the film had been almost completed. But it would have involved recalling Ingrid Bergman and - she'd had her hair cut!
    Thank god for the haircut! What would the movie have been like without ATGB?

    Interesting that Wiki says it was written for 'Everybody Comes to Rick's', while the documentary posted here (is the same as on the DVD?) says it was for another play ('Everybody's Welcome'?). Either way, it wasn't written specifically for the movie, but its part in creating the classic cannot be overstated.
    Last edited by MacLeod; Aug-26-2018 at 14:09. Reason: it's/its grrr
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    Casablanca, for all the reasons already stated. Plus Bogart's brilliant way with poker-faced dry humour: "I was misinformed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taggart View Post
    We saw this mentioned on the documentary and it looks good:
    Wow, that's hilarious and classic Warner Brothers.

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    Casablanca is like a slice of Gravity's Rainbow, following refugees of war, suggesting action at a distance... Raiders is more of a comic book kinda thing, where action illustrates Zeno's paradox in every possible form... but very well done.

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