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    Default A DVD of a traditional staging of Parsifal?

    Does one exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    Does one exist?
    I enjoyed this one immensely and would say that it is basically a very traditional staging.


    In fact, I just found it on You Tube, complete with English subtitles. Judge it for yourself.
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    Stein and Levine are traditional stagings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Stein and Levine are traditional stagings.
    Thanks. I will read some reviews to see which to try first.

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    What tradition are we talking about exactly? New Bayreuth? Some kind of realist staging or another branch of regietheater? Or something else? I see the word 'traditional' on this forum when talking about productions of operas but I haven't a clue what it really means because I've never really paid much attention to specific 'traditions' of opera productions. I would have loved to have seen some of Wieland Wagner's productions but I don't think they filmed those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    Thanks. I will read some reviews to see which to try first.
    A big difference and why I stuck with Stein is that Levine's set has a lot of skin in the temptation scene. It is pretty clear just from looking at the DVD covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shirime View Post
    What tradition are we talking about exactly?
    When I say traditional I mean staying within Wagner's settings and stage directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    When I say traditional I mean staying within Wagner's settings and stage directions.
    Right. The opposite of Regiethreatre production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    When I say traditional I mean staying within Wagner's settings and stage directions.


    I suppose you wouldn't like the Girard Bloody Parsifal production, and I add another vote to the Stein (my favourite Kundry and Gürnemanz with Mödl and Weber!).

    However, taking out the settings and dess code that Wagner described, which isn't found here, how faithfully does Girard follow Wagner's stage directions? I thought that in both Wolfgang Wagner and François Girard productions, Acts I and III showed the same actions and the final scene in Act III was incredibly epic in HD (DA sure loves this).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    When I say traditional I mean staying within Wagner's settings and stage directions.
    I put my faith in directors to interpret the stage directions.......ive never really thought it's really any issue anyway. I think Castellucci has a Parsifal btw. I really enjoyed his recent Tannhäuser for which almost all aspects of the staging were taken from Wagner's libretto.

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    Wieland Wagner's was considered a 'masterpiece' even by a traditionalist like John Culshaw. However, as time went on it got sparer and Wieland even cut the dove out. This enraged Kna who was conducting and who threatened to pull out unless the dove was restored. So that evening he was gratified to see the dove hovering at the right place in the score. What he didn't realise was that Wagner had arranged it to be so high that the conductor could see it that the audience didn't . When Kna realised he went off muttering imprecations about 'that scoundrel Wieland!'

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    I watched a few excepts of the Stein version, and just ordered it on Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextune View Post
    I watched a few excepts of the Stein version, and just ordered it on Amazon.
    Excellent. You will not be disappointed.
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