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    For what its worth, last year BBC Music Magazine surveyed 172 opera singers on their opinion of the greatest opera ever written. The Marriage of Figaro was #1. I happen to agree even though I enjoy the Rossini as well.

    http://www.classical-music.com/news/...opera-all-time

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Sorry, perhaps my question wasn't clear. I wasn't asking which operas do you think are Mozart's 'best', but in what way do you mean best or what are your criteria for deciding that one opera is 'better' than another? In any case it is probably more a rhetorical question as the thread has developed.

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    Singers said they chose the comic opera for its exciting momentum, fine ensemble writing and rich portrait of humanity. ‘The Marriage of Figaro is such a human portrait’ says Renée Fleming. ‘No matter how many times I sing this opera I am always completely stunned how little people have changed since Mozart’s time, in terms of relationships and the manoeuvring they do.’
    Soprano Dame Felicity Lott, meanwhile, praises Figaro’s ‘sublime and well-drawn characters’, while bass-baritone Gerald Finley calls the work ‘a singer’s rite of passage’, particularly in the roles of the Count, Susanna and Figaro himself.

    To me the da Ponte operas offer an unrivalled portrayal of basic human relationships, their fitting of words to music is the most perfect ever achieved and for sheer tunefulness they are unrivalled. They are also very accessible which is to me a huge plus. Mind you I can never decide which is the greatest. It's usually the one I'm listening to at the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olias View Post
    For what its worth, last year BBC Music Magazine surveyed 172 opera singers on their opinion of the greatest opera ever written. The Marriage of Figaro was #1. I happen to agree even though I enjoy the Rossini as well.

    http://www.classical-music.com/news/...opera-all-time
    Johannes Brahms said The Marriage of Fígaro was a miracle, that each number was more beautiful than the other. I agree with him. It was probably the first Opera I fell in love with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    According to BBC music:

    Singers said they chose the comic opera for its exciting momentum, fine ensemble writing and rich portrait of humanity. ‘The Marriage of Figaro is such a human portrait’ says Renée Fleming. ‘No matter how many times I sing this opera I am always completely stunned how little people have changed since Mozart’s time, in terms of relationships and the manoeuvring they do.’
    Soprano Dame Felicity Lott, meanwhile, praises Figaro’s ‘sublime and well-drawn characters’, while bass-baritone Gerald Finley calls the work ‘a singer’s rite of passage’, particularly in the roles of the Count, Susanna and Figaro himself.

    To me the da Ponte operas offer an unrivalled portrayal of basic human relationships, their fitting of words to music is the most perfect ever achieved and for sheer tunefulness they are unrivalled. They are also very accessible which is to me a huge plus. Mind you I can never decide which is the greatest. It's usually the one I'm listening to at the time!
    So who decides that best = human portraits and fitting words to music? and why those qualities and not any others? I'm not disagreeing about your comments on Mozart or his operas, I'm just raising the question whether the word 'best' is particularly useful when comparing operas. Why not just use the specific characteristics such as 'human portraits' and 'fitting words to music'? Isn't that a 'better' way to communicate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelMozart95 View Post
    Johannes Brahms said The Marriage of Fígaro was a miracle, that each number was more beautiful than the other. I agree with him. It was probably the first Opera I fell in love with.
    Many years ago when LPs were prohibited the store I worked for had a one sided LP of the beginning of the old Gui version. Someone had ordered it many years before and never collected it and as the boss knew I liked classical music he let me have it. I thought I never heard anything more beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Many years ago when LPs were prohibited






    There was a prohibition on LPs? Was this when they stopped selling them or something else?

    (I love the Gui Figaro, it's a great recording.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    There was a prohibition on LPs? Was this when they stopped selling them or something else?

    (I love the Gui Figaro, it's a great recording.)

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    Auto text again. What I meant was the cost of LPs was prohibitive to a young man with only a Saturday job.

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    I would have to vote Nozze.
    More hit tunes and the end of Act ll.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    I read somewhere that the sextet of Riconosci in questo amplesso was Mozart's favourite which is curious because it was also one of my favourite parts before I ever read about being Mozart's favourite.

    Recently I love Dorothea Röschmann as la Contessa and I also love her as Pamina in The Magic Flute, I think she's very underrated, like she isn't that famous but I think she's terrific at least in Mozart roles, I haven't heard much of her singing other composers.
    Last edited by ManuelMozart95; Oct-12-2018 at 09:05.

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    Both of them are Musikkomödien (Opera Buffa or drama giocoso) ... I can't decide which comedy is the best.
    Geheimnisvoll sie nahen die Lüfte, fraglos gebe ihrem Zauber ich mich hin.

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    Mozart is unquestionably the greater composer and Nozze is a masterpiece, but so in its more limited way is Barbiere. Barbiere is funnier, and Rossini had the unique gift of actually writing funny music. My taste inclines toward Barbiere.

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