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Thread: The Marriage of Figaro vs The Barber of Seville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    I think so. .

    I wonder if he might have revisited his earlier stuff after he had revised Tannhaüser. Who knows? Who cares? Surely Rienzi is greater than anything composed by Mozart or Rossini. It's more important that we acknowledge Wagner on a Mozart/Rossini thread. I know, it's a pain. But hey, we've all been there. Don't you just love hijacked threads?

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    MoF has a far more compelling plot, characters and better music for more character. 2 sopranos, a bass-baritone and a mezzo all have notable scenes and arias, and the story is....scandalous lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    I think so. .

    I wonder if he might have revisited his earlier stuff after he had revised Tannhaüser. Who knows? Who cares? Surely Rienzi is greater than anything composed by Mozart or Rossini. It's more important that we acknowledge Wagner on a Mozart/Rossini thread. I know, it's a pain. But hey, we've all been there. Don't you just love hijacked threads?



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    I have never known any musician of note who thinks so but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I have never known any musician of note who thinks so but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
    I was, of course, joking, but hey ho.
    No sound ever comes from the Gates of Eden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    I was, of course, joking, but hey ho.

    Ah but one never knows!

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    Well clearly the idea that Rienzi, as o.k. as it is, is anywhere near as sophisticated as Figaro or Barbiere, is ludicrous so it seemed fairly obvious that I was joking. In the future, a warning I shall give!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Well clearly the idea that Rienzi, as o.k. as it is, is anywhere near as sophisticated as Figaro or Barbiere, is ludicrous so it seemed fairly obvious that I was joking. In the future, a warning I shall give!!
    I do wonder why no one has yet recorded the whole of Rienzi. I suspect it might be intolerable in the opera house unless it were done Bayreuth-style, with long intermissions between the acts. It certainly is not a great opera, but it isn't without merit - it was a success at its first performance, after all - and it would be worth having complete as a document. I'd suggest Jonas Kaufmann in the title role.

    Digression over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    I do wonder why no one has yet recorded the whole of Rienzi. I suspect it might be intolerable in the opera house unless it were done Bayreuth-style, with long intermissions between the acts. It certainly is not a great opera, but it isn't without merit - it was a success at its first performance, after all - and it would be worth having complete as a document. I'd suggest Jonas Kaufmann in the title role.

    Digression over.
    I have three Rienzis. The Hollreiser is probably the best of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Well clearly the idea that Rienzi, as o.k. as it is, is anywhere near as sophisticated as Figaro or Barbiere, is ludicrous so it seemed fairly obvious that I was joking. In the future, a warning I shall give!!
    Yes I do know that!

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    I really enjoy hearing how artists perform the same parts in the different operas
    Victoria de Los Angeles
    (Rossini - Rosina – Una voce poco fa)

    (Mozart - Countess – Porgi amor)


    Tito Gobbi
    (Rossini – Figaro – Largo al factotum)

    (Mozart – Figaro – Non piu andrai)

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    Cont'd...

    Fernando Corena
    (Rossini – Bartolo – A un dottor della mia sorte)

    (Mozart – Bartolo – La vendetta)

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    Finally, I enjoy how some artists have tried several of the roles!
    Rossini
    Bartoli as Berta
    Bartoli as Rosina

    Mozart
    Bartoli as Susanna w. Bryn Terfel
    Bartoli as Cherubino

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelMozart95 View Post
    Mozart's best Operas were the best that had been composed until that point in history and for the next decades also. Only surpassed until the likes of Verdi, etc appeared.
    I think Mozart's operas are still unsurpassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelMozart95 View Post
    Johannes Brahms said The Marriage of Fígaro was a miracle, that each number was more beautiful than the other. I agree with him. It was probably the first Opera I fell in love with.
    I love Brahams! I agree with him. Like you, it was the first opera I fell in love with. I completely changed my life in the sense that opera went from being a small interest to a major passion for me because of Le nozze di Figaro.

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    I don't think we have to get into an either / or mentality about this. Figaro is one of the greatest masterpieces of opera but the Barber is a comic masterpiece in its own way and highly enjoyable
    Last edited by DavidA; Nov-05-2018 at 07:19.

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