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    Versions I have all with something to say about the work:

    Walter with Ferrier and Patzak - the classic version

    Klemperer with Ludwig and Wunderlich

    Leppard with Baker and Mitchenson

    Karajan with Ludwig and Kollo

    Haitink with Baker and King

    Giulini with Fassbender and Ariaza

    Having listed them I can't believe I have so many!

    one to avoid might be the Kaufmann in which he tries to sing both parts, thus ruining Mahler's intentions of contrast between the voices
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    [QUOTE=DavidA;1523317
    one to avoid might be the Kaufmann in which he tries to sing both parts, thus ruining Mahler's intentions of contrast between the voices[/QUOTE]

    And he doesn't sing either part particularly well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    And he doesn't sing either part particularly well....
    A double whammy!

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    Got hold of the Leppard version with Janet Baker and John Michenson. First impressions are that the strings are a bit lightweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Got hold of the Leppard version with Janet Baker and John Michenson. First impressions are that the strings are a bit lightweight.
    As I keep saying, for Janet Baker's incomparable singing of the lower part, go for the Kubelik. The tenor, Waldemar Kmentt, isn't half bad either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josquin13 View Post
    It's an impossible choice, but if I were pressed to pick a benchmark, I'd choose Otto Klemperer's recording of Das Lied von der Erde, with Christa Ludwig and Fritz Wunderlich. Klemperer sounds so idiomatic to me, a conductor naturally at home with this music, and he has great soloists. Tellingly, he doesn't turn the music into overdone melodrama in first song. A great Mahler conductor & a great performance:



    The same is true for Bruno Walter's New York Philharmonic performance, with singers Mildred Miller and Ernst Haefliger. Like Klemperer, Walter sounds utterly authentic in this music. He understands every nuance, every turn of phrase. I guess it really did help to know and work with the composer:



    I like Walter's 1952 Vienna Philharmonic recording too, with singers Kathleen Ferrier & Julius Patzak, but not as much, and again, I prefer Klemperer's singers. Plus, the sound is better on Walter's NYP recording: https://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Das-Li...6V02M2P159H8M3

    As others have mentioned, I wouldn't want to be without Dame Janet Baker's contributions to Rafael Kubelik and Bernard Haitink's recordings of Das lied, either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izFUK-gGcV4

    Nor would I want to be without Maureen Forrester and Richard Lewis's singing on Fritz Reiner's version. That's another great Mahler recording:



    After the Klemperer, Walter, & Reiner versions, Rafael Kubelik's live Audite recording would probably be my next choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBl...qRly65m1a3vmIY. Although in recent years I've also found myself reaching for Carla Maria Giulini's fascinating Das lied on DG (Giulni is another favorite Mahler conductor of mine). It has better sound than Kubelik's (& Walter's), which I find attractive:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ho...VRjgpn_A3FuCGI

    There is a good BBC version from Jascha Horenstein too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJgY9a02Snc.

    In addition, I'm fascinated to hear the various chamber versions of the Das lied--transcribed for soloists and chamber ensemble. It allows you to hear the different parts of Mahler's dense score so clearly (which isn't always easy to do outside of a concert hall). The first transcription was done by Arnold Schoenberg (& completed by Reiner Riehn). Both Philippe Herreweghe and Osma Vanska have made recordings of it. I've also enjoyed hearing a more recent chamber transcription by Iain Farrington, which is excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qCWlJA6QRA

    If anyone's interested, you can listen to the rest here:
    http://www.iainfarrington.com/dasliedvondererde.html

    I've not heard the all male Josef Krips' Vienna version with Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau and Fritz Wunderlich, on DG. I know that Mahler preferred a male singer in the alto part (though he didn't live to hear Das lied, if memory serves), and generally, in his orchestral song cycles, but I like women singing the alto part, especially Dame Janet Baker.

    To summarize, my top five recordings are: Klemperer EMI, Walter NYP, Reiner CSO, Kubelik Audite, and Giulini DG.

    My two cents.
    Nice post. I would add the Kletzki with F-D and Murray Dickie. The first one I heard and still a favourite. It's always tough to get past an imprint recording!
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    I've got that Krips recording but I'm ashamed to say I haven't got round to listening to it yet. Mea culpa!
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