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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    This is my suggestion too. The Solti has the better cast and is in better sound. I used to have both, but then got rid of the Sawallisch. I'm a huge Studer fan, but she is better heard in the Solti DVD with Moser and Marton. Kollo and Schwarz aren't up to their important roles and Domingo and Runkel (who was marvelous in the part of the Nurse at La Scala) beat them hands down. The main reason I would go for the Solti is because it hangs together better than the rather limp Sawallisch. I have reservations about Solti in Wagner and would have no hesitation choosing Sawallisch in Wagner over him, however his Frau really works.

    If they are both on YouTube then perhaps listen and compare for yourself? That's what I have started doing.

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    But Solti is the conductor on the live set I was listening to, and much of it I found just too loud and overblown. You could argue that the piece itself is loud and overblown, but I prefer a conductor who plays down these elements, and I already have a couple of Sawallisch Strauss performances (Arabella and Capriccio) which I like. I can of course listen to all of them on Spotify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    But Solti is the conductor on the live set I was listening to, and much of it I found just too loud and overblown. You could argue that the piece itself is loud and overblown, but I prefer a conductor who plays down these elements, and I already have a couple of Sawallisch Strauss performances (Arabella and Capriccio) which I like. I can of course listen to all of them on Spotify.
    I love the Sawallisch Capriccio, however I'm not totally convinced by his conducting on the Arabella. His Frau is even less polished. However, you may prefer it over the Solti (I don't know of that live recording and how similar it is to the studio recording.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    I wasn't aware of that recording - thanks. Is it worth hearing?
    In my opinion the 2014 Weigle set is very much worth hearing.
    (There's also a Weigle "Ariadne auf Naxos" on Oehms Classics)
    Both are live recordings recorded at the Frankfurt opera in modern sound.

    Here's an in-depth (very long) review of Weigle's Frau.
    https://www.voix-des-arts.com/2015/0...frau-ohne.html

    I'm a bit of a Strauss fan and currently own eight FrOSh-es on CD and one on blu-ray. (Thielemann)

    Kempe 54 (Myto); Böhm 55 (Orfeo); Böhm 55 (Decca); Keilberth 63 (DG); Karajan 64 (DG); Klobucar 75 (Sterling); Böhm 77 (DG); Weigle 2014 (Oehms)

    These are all live recordings, except for the Böhm 55 on Decca. In general I prefer the frisson of live recordings; don't really mind the occassional cut here and there nor minor stuff (balance issues, audience noise, etc...)

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    I have Solti which is a good recording, but I also have this one which is quite good:
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
    --Renata Scotto in "Scotto, More Than a DIva."

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    I have just bought the Solti (bargain second hand) and have started listening but it is heavy going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I have just bought the Solti (bargain second hand) and have started listening but it is heavy going.
    To me, Die Frau reminds me of Wagner opera. Heavy going but well worth the trip!
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
    --Renata Scotto in "Scotto, More Than a DIva."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    To me, Die Frau reminds me of Wagner opera. Heavy going but well worth the trip!
    Not at all like Wagner actually

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    This is my favourite version.
    I' am a really fan of Studer. The conducting is marvelous. René Kollo sounds too dry and i think he had the voice too used, but in the great monologue he rocks!!!

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