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    Phone scams are annoying because they invade your home and waste your time. And of course they are a crime, but most of us are too informed to fall for them.

    That still isn't as bad as a AAA rep trying to sell me something unrelated to automobiles and refusing to get off the phone until I capitulate when I'm calling for emergency roadside assistance (my gripe from a couple of weeks ago; I still can't get over it and I know I should write and complain to somebody). That is a crime, too. That could be deadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeh375 View Post
    Gripe for today and has been for a quite a while......

    Calls from India claiming to be my internet service provider. Sometimes I lead them on a bit and play dumb to waste their time before giving them a mouthful. The way I see it, I might just save one unsuspecting person from falling for the spiel. Other times like today the conversation went like this....

    Scammer..."Good afternoon, I'm calling from (internet provider), how are you today?
    Me..."No you're not you are trying to scam me...F*** off".

    Now I know that's not the most polite of responses but it's more polite than some conversations I've had with them.
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    Capitalism. I can't help thinking these are poor people from poor backgrounds engaged in an enterprising way to make money from greed and anonymity and off-the-shelf, freely available tech apps. Lies and false advertising and twisting the truth is what it's all about. Profits above everything else.
    People in capitalist societies should be well aware of such moneymaking schemes, in all their creative guises. Is it legal? Can it be arrested? I'm told by law-enforcement friends that they're like mushrooms popping up and setting up elsewhere, it would be like wack-a-mole in the large cities of India.
    I used to get these all the time - claiming they were from Windows and that they'd detected a fault on my computer. I usually just made an excuse and put the phone down, but I once did challenge the woman on the other end by saying that I'd read this was a well-known scam. She got on her moral high horse at once and was most indignant.
    I've often thought of that, and wondered if she was doubly villainous for 'acting' outraged, or whether she was a dupe too, and didn't know that she was a scammer, or not fully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    Phone scams are annoying because they invade your home and waste your time. And of course they are a crime, but most of us are too informed to fall for them.

    That still isn't as bad as a AAA rep trying to sell me something unrelated to automobiles and refusing to get off the phone until I capitulate when I'm calling for emergency roadside assistance (my gripe from a couple of weeks ago; I still can't get over it and I know I should write and complain to somebody). That is a crime, too. That could be deadly.
    I agree. That is dreadful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    Capitalism. I can't help thinking these are poor people from poor backgrounds engaged in an enterprising way to make money from greed and anonymity and off-the-shelf, freely available tech apps. Lies and false advertising and twisting the truth is what it's all about. Profits above everything else.
    People in capitalist societies should be well aware of such moneymaking schemes, in all their creative guises. Is it legal? Can it be arrested? I'm told by law-enforcement friends that they're like mushrooms popping up and setting up elsewhere, it would be like wack-a-mole in the large cities of India.
    What does this have to do with capitalism? This is small time criminals working on their own. Being poor doesn't give them justification to commit crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    Phone scams are annoying because they invade your home and waste your time. And of course they are a crime, but most of us are too informed to fall for them.

    That still isn't as bad as a AAA rep trying to sell me something unrelated to automobiles and refusing to get off the phone until I capitulate when I'm calling for emergency roadside assistance (my gripe from a couple of weeks ago; I still can't get over it and I know I should write and complain to somebody). That is a crime, too. That could be deadly.

    Exactly. I have an elderly friend who fell victim to one of these scans. She took her money down to the Western Union transfer place and just sent it because they told her they were from the IRS and she owed back taxes. She didn't want her son to find out because he was wanting her to move into assisted living. And she didn't tell any of her friends what she was doing - she had to travel 50 miles to find a Western Union in her old broken-down car. Most any of her friends could've told her it was a scam, but she was too embarrassed to tell anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post

    Thanks for that Luchesi, it's nice to know someone is getting back at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    Capitalism. I can't help thinking these are poor people from poor backgrounds engaged in an enterprising way to make money from greed and anonymity and off-the-shelf, freely available tech apps. Lies and false advertising and twisting the truth is what it's all about. Profits above everything else.
    People in capitalist societies should be well aware of such moneymaking schemes, in all their creative guises. Is it legal? Can it be arrested? I'm told by law-enforcement friends that they're like mushrooms popping up and setting up elsewhere, it would be like wack-a-mole in the large cities of India.
    We never had one hoax phone call after 3 times and it has helped neighbors and friends.
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    It's been a wild night - storms across the country.
    Puts the odd small gripe into perspective.
    Last edited by Ingélou; Feb-09-2020 at 09:29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    It's been a wild night - storms across the country.
    Puts the odd small gripe into perspective.
    You must be UK based Ingelou. I lost a computer monitor in storm Kiara and had to fork out £400.
    However that isn't my gripe today, it's this....

    Watching a UK quiz show the other night and the question was...

    Which Norwegian playwright wrote Peer Gynt?

    Answer...Tchaikovsky.

    or....

    What Planet's orbit does Pluto sometimes cross?

    Answer...Earth.

    What are the kids being torht in schule thees days? I mean I'm so super-griped about this.

    Oh, and another gripe, will someone please tell whoever is in charge that a noun is not an adjective.
    Witness an advertising slogan current in the UK..."Do you Almond"?.....really?...do you syntax?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeh375 View Post
    Oh, and another gripe, will someone please tell whoever is in charge that a noun is not an adjective.
    Witness an advertising slogan current in the UK..."Do you Almond"?.....really?...do you syntax?
    Sinful syntax indeed! Quite a while ago there was a phrase in circulation -- "Verbing wierds writing" -- that was intended to put a stop to this kind of nonsense. The phrase is intentionally ironic because there is no verb "to wierd;" further, the phrase sounds atrocious. We need something like this again!

    I think your phrase "Do you Almond?" is comparable because there is no such verb as "to almond" (compare "Do you read?" or "Do you smoke?," which do have verbs), and this phrase also sounds atrocious. But is may also be possible that "Almond" is intended to be confused for an adjective, modifying "you", with the connotations that (impressively capitalized) Almonds are healthy or attractive (e.g. almond eyes). And the grammatical atrocity sounds trendy, engaging the distracted viewer. Advertising 1, English 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Knox View Post
    Sinful syntax indeed! Quite a while ago there was a phrase in circulation -- "Verbing wierds writing" -- that was intended to put a stop to this kind of nonsense. The phrase is intentionally ironic because there is no verb "to wierd;" further, the phrase sounds atrocious. We need something like this again!

    I think your phrase "Do you Almond?" is comparable because there is no such verb as "to almond" (compare "Do you read?" or "Do you smoke?," which do have verbs), and this phrase also sounds atrocious. But is may also be possible that "Almond" is intended to be confused for an adjective, modifying "you", with the connotations that (impressively capitalized) Almonds are healthy or attractive (e.g. almond eyes). And the grammatical atrocity sounds trendy, engaging the distracted viewer. Advertising 1, English 0.
    "Verbing wierds writing" is indeed an effective slogan. It's a rather catchy, memorable word-worm and clever too - all desirable traits for an advertising industry tag line of course and just as insidious and annoying but it has got us talking about it .
    Language is of course in constant development and renewal, it's fluid and adaptable, just like music. Maybe it's about to hit an equivalent break down in immediate comprehension, just like music did a while back. Having said that, it might not be so bad, we all know of at least one person whom we'd like to hear in a vocabularistic (see what I did there) performance of a grammatical 4'33".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Frustrating that people will leave the office microwave with time left that makes it so you can't input time until you hit reset, or they spill enough to make their dish stick and pulling it out leaves the turntable misaligned so it won't turn and you have to fix it, or the person who cooks a burrito on a napkin leaking cheese sauce out the microwave door (at least that person cleaned up after themselves).

    One guy tried using a CD for a splash cover on his soup and melted it.

    I once got an extra digit heating water for tea and was so busy i forgot to come back and after about 20 minutes the water was gone, vaporized.

    In our early post-teens we were having a party at one guys parent's house and he exploded a egg in the microwave. Now that was fun to watch, especially since it was not my problem to clean up.

    Lets hear more microwave mishaps and tricks, just nothing evil please.
    My wife prefers to make pasta dishes in the microwave (I prefer boiling on the rangetop). The only difference is that in a microwave you cannot salt the water because it will boil over.

    But this once she put the spaghetti in a plastic storage bowl WITHOUT ANY WATER AT ALL. She yells up to me "There's something wrong with the microwave!"

    Now, the microwave is a bit temperamental, sometimes pretending to run when simply close the door. It's old (I've had this 1200 watt monster since 1984). So I'm seeing dollar signs in my mind.

    I run down and can then smell the acrid scent of something burning. I open the microwave to the sight of blackened spaghetti and melty bowl. Fortunately we have a round, microwave trivet-like thingy inside, which also bubbled a bit, but kept the radiation heated spaghetti and bowl from ruining the inside of the microwave.

    I used coffee pot cleaner on the inside to get rid of the minor smoke coating.

    And the microwave still works, although we'll have to buy a new 'thingy'.

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    Once I was surprised by what my microwave didn't do - I was reheating some soup in a mug and I absent-mindedly left the metal spoon in. As soon as I realised this the microwave was already running and I thought it would go tonto because of the metal item, as it had done once before when I had left a loose bit of aluminium foil in there. Anyway, nothing happened - I wonder if for some reason the soup acted as a kind of insulator? This was some years ago but the microwave continues to work perfectly well.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    I was told that some bloke who wasn't exactly well-acquainted with the kitchen once tried to heat up a Pot Noodle in a microwave. Not only did he fail to add water to the powder but he never even took the foil lid off. I gather things didn't end well.

    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    I've never had a microwave - a bit scared of the technology.

    This morning I was tempted by some slow-cooker recipes in the newspaper.
    Have any of you got any experience of slow cookers and what they're like to use on a practical basis? They sound delightful and trouble-free, but I can snarl up just about anything.
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