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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    There is no singing during Salome's dance.

    See 59:50 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlb4SnVReA
    Well, if you haven't the physique du rôle, maybe it is better to perform the dance as above. I saw Gwyneth Jones as Salome at Covent Garden, already quite late in her career, and she stripped down to a very ill fitting body stocking. Disbelief was no longer suspended, I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    Well, if you haven't the physique du rôle, maybe it is better to perform the dance as above. I saw Gwyneth Jones as Salome at Covent Garden, already quite late in her career, and she stripped down to a very ill fitting body stocking. Disbelief was no longer suspended, I'm afraid.
    The problem is that the role requires a mature singer voice wise but she has to act as a 16 year-old girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    The problem is that the role requires a mature singer voice wise but she has to act as a 16 year-old girl
    No problem for the likes of Teresa Stratas or Maria Ewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    No problem for the likes of Teresa Stratas or Maria Ewing.
    I read that Stratas never sang the role on the stage - just for the film, which was dubbed.Unable to attend the main sessions, Stratas overdubbed the entire part. Ewing performed it on stage in Peter Hall's production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I read that Stratas never sang the role on the stage - just for the film, which was dubbed.Unable to attend the main sessions, Stratas overdubbed the entire part. Ewing performed it on stage in Peter Hall's production.
    I don't think Stratas did sing it on stage, but her Salome in the film is superb, and she suffers not one bit from the close ups. Ewing did, as you say, sing it in Peter Hall's Covent Garden production, famously stripping completely nude in the dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    There is no singing during Salome's dance.

    See 59:50 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlb4SnVReA
    No, for the whole role. I don't know if she lipsynched. A drag queen could have pulled that off with enough drugs. https://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/13/a...rt-wilson.html Caballe was very mature at this point In 59, when she first did it, she was normal sized and could be believable onstage. It is amazing to see how relatively slender she was when she is in peak form vocally. If Caballe in her prime were around today, I bet there would not be such a buzz about Netrebko, who sings the same repertoire but not so well. Of course, Netrebko looks much better in videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMitchell View Post
    I don't think Stratas did sing it on stage, but her Salome in the film is superb, and she suffers not one bit from the close ups. Ewing did, as you say, sing it in Peter Hall's Covent Garden production, famously stripping completely nude in the dance.
    I have the DVD with Stratas and she is completely believable as a frustrated, horny, spoiled postpubescent teenager who has always gotten her way. Only in some of the highest-volume bits is there some stress in the voice but overall her vocal and dramatic technique are superb.

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