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    Well, the Christmas Oratorio has been made into a ballet
    https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com...neumeier-9663/

    But:“My choreography is not a religious undertaking. We perform to Bach’s music, for a few hours unifying individuals of many different cultural and religious backgrounds. For me, the basic human values expressed through the choreography are always the most important thing. Therefore, in my ballet, Mary is known simply as ‘the Mother’ and Joseph as ‘her Husband’.”

    Doesn't seem kitschy either, luckily, judging from the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikoo Tuba View Post
    Seems I hear modern Christian music sounding similar to a Disney cartoon movie tune . Oh , well . Devotion .
    Christian contemporary music or CCM is repetitive and seems to be very similar musically to secular pop music.
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
    --Renata Scotto in "Scotto, More Than a DIva."

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    The best Christian contemporary music was unaccepted, the artists made 100 or 300 copies of the records. Hipsters are finding these in thriftshops, branding them with the keyword XIAN, and they are sometimes selling for over $1500 an lp. Even non-religious people are paying that much. There is a huge book called The Archivist that lists some of them, but more are being discovered every month. You can hear a great playlist on YouTube by typing XIAN rock, or XIAN psych, for psychedelia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regenmusic View Post
    The best Christian contemporary music was unaccepted, the artists made 100 or 300 copies of the records. Hipsters are finding these in thriftshops, branding them with the keyword XIAN, and they are sometimes selling for over $1500 an lp. Even non-religious people are paying that much. There is a huge book called The Archivist that lists some of them, but more are being discovered every month. You can hear a great playlist on YouTube by typing XIAN rock, or XIAN psych, for psychedelia.
    Wow, a treasure trove of awesome music with a 60s sound. Thanks for the tip.
    Here is a good one I just found on the You Tube XIAN search:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU4Gdc-Z-iM
    Last edited by Fritz Kobus; Dec-08-2018 at 07:53.
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    Yes , I think I would like Christian ballet as psychedelic . Last night I had a another dream of the Living Water . Perhaps I may imagine a flow of the springhead and the forever river as dance .

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    I listen to everything... Amy Grant wrote a terrific number of inspired Christian hits with world-class production values and sound before she took her life in another direction unrelated to religion:



    Christian music is so often denigrated because it seeks to be positive in outlook, inspirational, philosophical or religious, and worst "sin" of all, quotes the name of Jesus as representing the Christian faith. Its value is not understood by those disinterested in such areas that are not based on everyday materialism, sexual content, and cynicism. There's been a large market for Christian contemporary music for years and some of it is exceptionally good musically, sometimes just as good, IMO, as anything in commercial pop. But it's generally not as aggressive, and for good reason, because of the inspirational subject matter of most songs, perhaps related more to easy listening but seeking greater depth, sincerity, and something related to spiritual faith.
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    ”Art is how we decorate space; Music is how we decorate time.”

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    [QUOTE=joen_cph;1552191]Well, the Christmas Oratorio has been made into a ballet
    https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com...neumeier-9663/

    St. Matthew's Passion as well, by the same John Neumeier:

    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    God gave all men all earth to love,
    But since our hearts are small,
    Ordained for each one spot should prove
    Beloved over all.
    R. Kipling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    ....the Christian faith. Its value is not understood by those disinterested in such areas that are not based on everyday materialism, sexual content, and cynicism.
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    The value of non-materialism and positive life is well understood . All have heard the Word .

    Perhaps the return of Jesus will advance art . All the colors of heaven . Why not dance and play from that reality now ? hmm ? Reality , of course , is more and more inevitable .

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    I wonder what may be a strong story for a ballet of living water . In my mind-vision I see this beautiful pure water , and I wonder this is of a new creation understanding .

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    When was about 20, I wrote music for a Christian ballet based on the book of Ezekiel. There is some interesting visual imagery in that book and thought it would make a good ballet.

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    The wheel within a wheel sounds like a gyroscope . Spinning music - when the bell rings for dinner the band finds some way to gracefully end the song of circles happily , eh ?

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    Ballet of the Living Water

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    enter the New Jerusalem
    what is it ?
    a cube .
    and within it is ?
    only the peaceful may enter .
    there-in is the springhead of the living water , flowing from a cylinder .
    and this cube is a new understanding of physical ?
    is now and will be .

    the harmless may enter its gates even now .
    what's to do there ?
    play with the crystal river , which is as the tumble of a mountain stream over stones .
    how are the people at play ?
    huh ? pray and frolic , drink and weep
    the orchestra is there frreely
    until the silence of dawn
    then appears only the awakening and questions of little children , and caring for them
    assemble the circle high noon , hand in hand , humming
    and guide a parade of colorful , honored , now quiet in amazement children to the center
    in one moment all silence will be broken with joy

    drink of the good water beyond confusion
    stay within the new city come from above or leave as you please .

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