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    I just googled "Christian Ballet" and a ton of stuff came up, even someone who studied with Martha Graham.. Anyone have any experience with this?

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    I wish Christian dance musics were word-less . Could a Christian feeling be expressed purely with dancers and orchestra ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikoo Tuba View Post
    I wish Christian dance musics were word-less . Could a Christian feeling be expressed purely with dancers and orchestra ?
    I can see how using familiar images would obviate the need for words. But to express Christian feeling? That would be a challenge, to express how your faith has affected you only by how you move, unless the orchestra is playing something that outlines your faith, like Amazing Grace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regenmusic View Post
    I just googled "Christian Ballet" and a ton of stuff came up, even someone who studied with Martha Graham.. Anyone have any experience with this?
    One thing that has become popular in churches is what they call praise dancing. I don't know if that rises to the level of ballet. But when it is done with sincerity, it is pretty effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    ...to express Christian feeling? That would be a challenge, to express how your faith has affected you only by how you move...
    One modern dynamic to artfully advance will be the physical expression of family . People have had the circle dances for a long time now , and these have not required narrations such as We Are Worshipping Now .

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    Unfortunately in our westernised form of Christianity that has been practiced, we have often failed to realise that it comes from the East where dancing would be part of the worship.

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    To be of family in peace , the beauty of god is received in unity and quiet astonishment . Personal ecstasies can seem annoying to witness , or is that entertainment ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Unfortunately in our westernised form of Christianity that has been practiced, we have often failed to realise that it comes from the East where dancing would be part of the worship.
    Oddly, I don't see anything of dancing in the New Testament early church as depicted in the Bible. So was dancing in the east a tradition the church in the east came up with? Then it would not follow that it is needed. And what would be the failure in not realizing that it (form of worship) came from the east. I assume by "form of Christianity" you mean the form or worship? Not a whole lot on form of worship is given in the Bible, which leads me to believe we have great freedom in how we conduct our worship services. Certainly prayer, song, thankfulness to God, and the Word of God would be part of it. Essentially it should be a joyful celebration of God's glory and what He has done for us.
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    Christian Ballet, eh? I'm glad Bach's music isn't referred to as "Christian Classical".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Essentially it should be a joyful celebration of God's glory and what He has done for us.
    I suspect the doctrine of original sin can be a creativity problem . I'll think about it .

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    I saw more references to Christian ballet companies rather than Christian ballets. But I would think that any ballet that somehow relates to certain traditional Christian values or settings might be considered one, but preferably without the name. I would include the innocence of the Nutcracker as possibly being related though only vaguely. I’ve never seen any performance promoted as a Christian ballet, but only as a ballet company. I would think that most composers are trying to reach the widest possible audience rather than being identified with a specific religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikoo Tuba View Post
    To be of family in peace , the beauty of god is received in unity and quiet astonishment . Personal ecstasies can seem annoying to witness , or is that entertainment ?
    I think it would be more like an choreography expressive of many dynamics and dimensions of the sacred experience and the journey of the soul leading to edification by grace, and the lessons that only salvation by grace can teach us.

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    tis a gift to be simple , tis a gift to be free

    How would ballet interpret Copeland's orchestration ? Shaker-ly , I suppose . Men and women in Shaker society have a ritualized family Christian relationship yet with no children born to them . A Gift To Be Simple is their loving dance , a moon dance .

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    Beyond the Nutcracker it seems the dance companies are using music and concepts by Christian composers. There is much modern or contemporary Christian music that is only heard in Church or in companies like these. Seems legit.

    Dan

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    Seems I hear modern Christian music sounding similar to a Disney cartoon movie tune . Oh , well . Devotion .

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