View Poll Results: Do you like hearing melismatic runs

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Thread: Can you stand melismatic runs?

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    The Mariah Carey's song reminded me of this glorious performance. Sorry for trolling, I laughed hard at this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    Usual answer. I like it when it is well done and dislike it when it's not. Another way of saying: It Depends......
    The problem with modern day runs of melisma is that those who are making up the notes are singers. They're not composers or songwriters.
    "He who makes songs without feeling spoils both his words and his music. " ~ Guillaume de Machaut

    "It is insulting to address anyone in a language which they do not understand." ~ Benjamin Britten

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    What about this example? I feel this one is way overdone compared to other versions

    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    I especially don't like Celine Dion. But generally I don't like any of these singers mentioned. It is the melisma that ruins it for me? I don't know enough, I haven't listened enough to make an informed opinion. Once this music starts to invade my ears I switch it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senza sordino View Post
    I especially don't like Celine Dion. But generally I don't like any of these singers mentioned. It is the melisma that ruins it for me? I don't know enough, I haven't listened enough to make an informed opinion. Once this music starts to invade my ears I switch it off.
    The old standards and many very good recent songs were composed by clever songwriters who knew what they were doing. These young singers apparently are puffed up enough to think that they can come up with something of comparable interest spontaneously, merely from their emotional response to the original composition. This is extremely unlikely. lol It's a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Maybe they can't help themselves or maybe they actually work on these ugly 'elaborations' -- but either way it's difficult to take (if you really care about songs of high quality, and most young people don't have the background).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    They add passion and intensity to the music, take it a step higher, and it’s not easy to do vocally. I think it’s tremendous when not overdone. Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey are great masters of the technique....
    Slipstreaming behind Whitney was Charice, with this hair-raising performance of The Bodyguard medley. Charice did not established herself as a peer or successor to Whitney or Céline or Mariah, but if she never sang anything else, she will live in my affections forever for this brief but spectacular effort.....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu1sQW_rdak

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