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  • Bellini: I Capuleti e i Montecchi

    5 38.46%
  • Gounod: Roméo et Juliette

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    Default Which Romeo and Juliet Opera?

    Just curious which Romeo and Juliet opera is most preferred here at TC. I left out "other" because the few I could find were relatively obscure. These seem to be the two most popular ones.
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    Can we have option: both, equal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    Can we have option: both, equal?
    Sorry, I was trying to drive a hard line. Well, just think as if you could only take one to the desert island.
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    Gounod, without a moment's hesitation. The other's a Rossini pastiche that bears little resemblance to Shakespeare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFuller View Post
    Gounod, without a moment's hesitation. The other's a Rossini pastiche that bears little resemblance to Shakespeare.
    I can't speak to the Rossininess of it, but it is not supposed to resemble Shakespeare because (according to Wikipedia) Donizetti's "libretto by Felice Romani was a reworking of the story of Romeo and Juliet for an opera by Nicola Vaccai called Giulietta e Romeo and based on the play of the same name by Luigi Scevola written in 1818, thus an Italian source rather than taken directly from William Shakespeare."
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    Just in case anybody could be interested in Vaccaj's opera, that is nice and I liked it more than Gounod's, is complete in youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbUHQWkCrvI

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    Quote Originally Posted by schigolch View Post
    Just in case anybody could be interested in Vaccaj's opera, that is nice and I liked it more than Gounod's, is complete in youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbUHQWkCrvI
    There is a super nice mezzo voice in it too.
    Last edited by Fritz Kobus; Nov-28-2018 at 15:59.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I can't speak to the Rossininess of it, but it is not supposed to resemble Shakespeare because (according to Wikipedia) Donizetti's "libretto by Felice Romani was a reworking of the story of Romeo and Juliet for an opera by Nicola Vaccai called Giulietta e Romeo and based on the play of the same name by Luigi Scevola written in 1818, thus an Italian source rather than taken directly from William Shakespeare."
    And Luigi Scevola's play wasn't based on Shakespeare's, either. But both plays can trace their lineage back to Luigi da Porto's Giulietta e Romeo from 1524. He named the characters and families, set the play in Verona, and so on. The fact that Shakespeare wrote a popular version of the story doesn't mean that every version thereafter has to be based on his, or that using a different line reveals a deficiency.

    Bellini took melodies from his own Zaira, not anything by Rossini. And give me I Capuleti e i Montecchi over most anything by Rossini any day.

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    I can live without both. We have a great R & J ballet by Prokofiev, which I find more powerful than the Shakespeare play, but not a worthy opera.

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    There's also Berlioz's Dramatic Symphony, which I prefer to both.
    Last edited by GregMitchell; Nov-28-2018 at 21:51.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    I can't speak to the Rossininess of it, but it is not supposed to resemble Shakespeare because (according to Wikipedia) Donizetti's "libretto by Felice Romani was a reworking of the story of Romeo and Juliet for an opera by Nicola Vaccai called Giulietta e Romeo and based on the play of the same name by Luigi Scevola written in 1818, thus an Italian source rather than taken directly from William Shakespeare."
    I can't speak to the Donizettiness any more than the Rossininess. Now the *Bellininess*--that's another matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    I can live without both. We have a great R & J ballet by Prokofiev, which I find more powerful than the Shakespeare play, but not a worthy opera.
    That I ought to look into.
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    Definitely do! My favorite work by prokofiev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    Definitely do! My favorite work by prokofiev
    Well, I will have to get two Prokofiev ballets: R&J and Cinderella.
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