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    Quote Originally Posted by LezLee View Post
    Anyone like R.E.M.?
    there was a short period of my life (maybe 2 years) when I listened to them - along with Cranberries, U2, The Police, The Cure, Depeche Mode, RHCP etc. It had to be sometimes in the 1990's, when I was a teenager and walkmans were still popular. Also, my recently deceased uncle was a musician, and he played a lot of R.E.M. with his band until recently.

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    I remember Stryper's classic 80s Christian hair metal sound. I think I played the death out of 'To Hell with the Devil', 'Calling on You' and 'Always there for you' back in the day. They were up there with bands like White Sister and their ilk at that time. THWTD reminds me of a rock club I used to attend in Manchester back in the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    I disagree. Radiohead is massively influential. After listening to their music patiently I do feel that the acclaim they get is well deserved. Moreover the last studio album that King Crimson released was in 2003. I read it was well received but it did not get critical acclaim.
    Still it is your opinion. I think Radiohead is brilliant and based on wiki,critical and user rating on metacritic,rym,sputnik. I will say Radiohead is probably better than King Crimson. Or atleast more proficient in what they(Radiohead) do.
    I did not listen to King Crimson. I will check it out though.
    Crimson has been playing new material as well as older stuff. They don't record studio albums now because there is no reason to. Their live performances are studio quality in one take. This is from this decade:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24wD_Tcapxg

    Radiohead is not in the same league by any measure you want to pick. As instrumentalists Crimson of any era blows them off the stage, which I'm sure Radiohead would acknowledge if anyone were so unfeeling as to ask them. Composition? Not even close.
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    I went to Green Day in 2017. Still awesome as f***!!!

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    But has Crimson ever had their music "remixed" by Steve Reich?

    And to return the favor:


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    A few years ago there was a TV programme about Radiohead, one of those informal late-night ones. Part of it featured drummer Phil Selway who has worked with various other artists and also done some really good solo work.

    Last edited by LezLee; Feb-21-2019 at 03:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardBast View Post
    Radiohead is not in the same league by any measure you want to pick.
    Rather like the fruitless comparisons between Genesis and CM...there is no common league within which it is reasonable to expect them to compete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardBast View Post
    Crimson has been playing new material as well as older stuff. They don't record studio albums now because there is no reason to. Their live performances are studio quality in one take. This is from this decade:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24wD_Tcapxg

    Radiohead is not in the same league by any measure you want to pick. As instrumentalists Crimson of any era blows them off the stage, which I'm sure Radiohead would acknowledge if anyone were so unfeeling as to ask them. Composition? Not even close.
    I did not compare Radiohead to King Crimson like you are implying. I just roughly compared them based on user and critical reviews.
    On the user side both Radiohead and King Crimson have 3 albums with above 4/5 rating on RYM and sputnik.
    On the critics side Radiohead simply had slightly more edge,
    And in terms of latest album (on critical side) Radiohead has got 88 on metacritic while Crimson has 72 and the album by King Crimson is also very old, it was released on 2003.
    I would also point out that Radiohead has not changed any member ever since their first album.
    I never meant to compare them side by side like you are thinking of. It is also useless to compare acclaimed bands of different genres tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    I did not compare Radiohead to King Crimson like you are implying. I just roughly compared them based on user and critical reviews.
    On the user side both Radiohead and King Crimson have 3 albums with above 4/5 rating on RYM and sputnik.
    On the critics side Radiohead simply had slightly more edge,
    And in terms of latest album (on critical side) Radiohead has got 88 on metacritic while Crimson has 72 and the album by King Crimson is also very old, it was released on 2003.
    I would also point out that Radiohead has not changed any member ever since their first album.
    I never meant to compare them side by side like you are thinking of. It is also useless to compare acclaimed bands of different genres tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    I will say Radiohead is probably better than King Crimson
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardBast View Post
    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^^
    I did compare them based on reviews (again it was rough comparison, not exact side by side), so when I said Radiohead is probably better, I meant based on overall numbers on metacritic,rym,sputnik,wikipedia etc.
    Last edited by tomterry; Feb-21-2019 at 15:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    I did compare them based on reviews (again it was rough comparison, not exact side by side), so when I said Radiohead is probably better, I meant based on overall numbers on metacritic,rym,sputnik,wikipedia etc.
    Generally speaking, rock critics are not to be taken seriously. Crimson album reviews are readily available in more than a few Jazz websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    Generally speaking, rock critics are not to be taken seriously. Crimson album reviews are readily available in more than a few Jazz websites.
    Okay.. I understand. Btw I checked out King Crimson, really liked that Starless(listened to it a few times) song, especially the live one on youtube. I will listen to few more songs now. So far I like it. But again music for me has always been a slow boil. It is not like I love a song or music within an hour. But again I still do not know if I will like their stuff more than Radiohead. Only time will tell.

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    There’s a dedicated Crimson thread at:

    King Crimson appreciation thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    Okay.. I understand. Btw I checked out King Crimson, really liked that Starless(listened to it a few times) song, especially the live one on youtube. I will listen to few more songs now. So far I like it. But again music for me has always been a slow boil. It is not like I love a song or music within an hour. But again I still do not know if I will like their stuff more than Radiohead. Only time will tell.
    they are better than Radiohead. This is not even something debatable. One of my favorite songs of theirs is Islands. Another great song is In The Wake Of Poseidon and Epitaph

    it has great lyrics, poetry-like, mystical
    also, KC are much more influential band than Radiohead will ever be. Many rock musicians and bands were influenced by King Crimson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    they are better than Radiohead. This is not even something debatable.
    That's absurd. Of course it's debatable.
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