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    Quote Originally Posted by tomterry View Post
    Thank you for suggesting Steven Wilson and slowdive. I got into porcupine tree through your suggestions. I liked their Fear of the blank planet and deadwing by porcupine tree. Very good stuff.
    Porcupine Tree are very good, but one of those odd bands that I feel are overrated by their fans and underrated in general. For PT, I think Stupid Dream and In Absentia are their best. For SW, I really like The Raven That Refused to Sing.

    If you can tolerate metal, you might also check out Opeth. Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth and Steven Wilson are good friends and they've had a pretty big influence on each other. Wilson produces several of Opeth's albums starting at around the turn of the century. Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, and Still Life are generally considered their best. If you can't tolerate the vocals (many can't), then you might check out Damnation and Sorceress, which don't feature any of the "growl" vocals.
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    I still think if you like Radiohead then Pineapple Thief are essential listening. The early albums are very Radioheady but since Tightly Unwound their sound has changed a lot. Every album since Someone Here is Missing is brilliant, especially 'Magnolia'. I know I'm biased as I love them but if you don't believe me go and see them live. They're awesome.
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    Radiohead [sigh], it's one of those bands I revisit every 3 or so years. My friend gave me "Amnesiac," "The Bends," "Hail to the Thief," "In Rainbows," "Kid A," "The King of Limbs," and "OK Computer." I have listened to each album at least 3 times...

    ... I just don't get their appeal. Long winded, droning, aimless, bland, blah-ness. Those and similar descriptions are all I can come up with to describe this band. Sure every blue moon, they come up with a song that I find listenable such as High N Dry, Reckoner, House of Cards, and even (if I'm in the mood although it's still "droney"), Nude. But overall, I feel like slitting my wrists and get depressed when I listen to them.

    But hey, like I say with every band, genre, and sub genre: If it rings your bell then I say Rock On and keep listening and enjoy. There's an @$$ for every seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    Long winded, droning, aimless, bland, blah-ness. [...] overall, I feel like slitting my wrists and get depressed when I listen to them.
    It has occurred to you that that is exactly their appeal, has it? I don't put Radiohead on if what I want to listen to is cheery 3 minute pop, egghead noodling, or metal thrash.

    I wouldn't necessarily use the words you've chosen, but I get the drift that what they offer doesn't suit your mood, and perhaps not your temperament either.

    Having said that, I don't get depressed. They confirm my instinct for melancholy - I think the phrase we like to use these days is "resonate with". In the same way that listening to Fleetwood Mac's Don't Stop and Go Your Own Way pairing yesterday prompted a risky andrenalin rush while I was on the motorway, Radiohead provokes a more reflective, languid mood - probably safer driving too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    I just don't get their appeal. Long winded, droning, aimless, bland, blah-ness.
    Hmmm, I can understand why Radiohead don't appeal to many, but these are rather unusual descriptions. Long-winded from a band that keeps almost everything under 6 minutes? Droning from a band that have many songs that move between very different sections? Aimless from a band whose only flaw is I often feel they're TOO focused on where they're going? To me, you're describing a lot of bad jam/prog bands more so than anything I'd associate with Radiohead.

    As for depressing, they are often melancholic, but not sure I'd call it depressing. They're frequently too cryptic, or beautiful, or dark/heavy to be depressing. For true slit-your-wrist depression give a listen to Billie Eilish:


    Mazzy Star and Lana Del Rey do the depressing aesthetic really well, too, or Alice in Chains on the Dirt album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Yojimbo View Post
    true slit-your-wrist depression give a listen to Billie Eilish:
    Billie Eilish is NOT slit-your-wrist depressing, come on now. Have you heard of, like, Daniel Johnston? "Hello, How Are You" is literally about his life as a schizophrenic man with crippling anxieties in the form of a cassette tape. It's ******* brutal. In terms of active bands, surely Phil Elverum is more depressing; "A Crow Looked at Me" is literally about his wife's death. Again, brutal.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2cmIIomac
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzkNS4rits

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50iL View Post
    Billie Eilish is NOT slit-your-wrist depressing, come on now. Have you heard of, like, Daniel Johnston? "Hello, How Are You" is literally about his life as a schizophrenic man with crippling anxieties in the form of a cassette tape. It's ******* brutal. In terms of active bands, surely Phil Elverum is more depressing; "A Crow Looked at Me" is literally about his wife's death. Again, brutal.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2cmIIomac
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzkNS4rits
    I'd say that Eilish track is as depressive as it gets. It sounds like a suicide note in song form. I've heard some of Daniel Johnston, but not Phil Elverum. My list was hardly exhaustive and I wasn't looking to turn it into a who can out-depress who contest, so I'll simply view your rather confrontational post as a friendly recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Yojimbo View Post
    I'd say that Eilish track is as depressive as it gets. It sounds like a suicide note in song form. I've heard some of Daniel Johnston, but not Phil Elverum. My list was hardly exhaustive and I wasn't looking to turn it into a who can out-depress who contest, so I'll simply view your rather confrontational post as a friendly recommendation.
    Sorry, I didn't mean to get confrontational. I see my message more as a "if you think Billie is bad, you MUST check these few" kinda thing. Sorry if it came across a tad aggressive. Anyway, if you dig Phil, The Microphones are a freaking must. Indie folk can be pretty damn depressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50iL View Post
    Sorry, I didn't mean to get confrontational. I see my message more as a "if you think Billie is bad, you MUST check these few" kinda thing. Sorry if it came across a tad aggressive. Anyway, if you dig Phil, The Microphones are a freaking must. Indie folk can be pretty damn depressive.
    No problem, and thanks for the recs. Always on the lookout for new music to check out.

    Another song I thought of as being extremely depressing is Big Star's Holocaust:


    Never quite figured out how a band that started out as fun power pop made an album like Third/Sister Lovers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Yojimbo View Post
    No problem, and thanks for the recs. Always on the lookout for new music to check out.

    Another song I thought of as being extremely depressing is Big Star's Holocaust:


    Never quite figured out how a band that started out as fun power pop made an album like Third/Sister Lovers...
    Thanks! I'll check em out for sure.

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    To clarify, It's not necessarily the mood they convey in their music that I find depressing (some songs, yes), it's after hearing the often whiny vocals and the cacophony they create after a few minutes, sometimes I feel like slitting my wrists just so I don't have to hear them anymore. But then suddenly my wits come back to me and I realize I have a stop button and almost an entire terabyte of other music to choose from in my library.

    Rock on Radiohead fans!!! Enjoy!!!! (And I truly mean that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    To clarify, It's not necessarily the mood they convey in their music that I find depressing (some songs, yes), it's after hearing the often whiny vocals and the cacophony they create after a few minutes, sometimes I feel like slitting my wrists just so I don't have to hear them anymore. But then suddenly my wits come back to me and I realize I have a stop button and almost an entire terabyte of other music to choose from in my library.

    Rock on Radiohead fans!!! Enjoy!!!! (And I truly mean that).

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    The OP was about whether Radiohead is "the only" etc etc etc. Your post doesn't really address this, merely offering a personal response to their music.

    If this were Just A Minute, I'd point out your deviation and claim my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Yojimbo View Post
    For true slit-your-wrist depression give a listen to Billie Eilish:
    This is depressing alright—depressingly bad. The ‘singer’ is mediocre at best, and what’s with the bedroom voice? Tacky.

    As for Big Star—exceptionally talented band. Radiohead? Not so much.
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    I saw Radiohead in about 1997 or so, got dragged along to the show as some friends of mine were massive fans at the time. Was a bit underwhelmed to be honest although I guess they've written a couple of interesting songs. My rock music tastes are more retro really, although I was a very big fan of the White Stripes for their first 3 or 4 albums. Thought they went a bit downhill after that. I find myself listening to more and more classical music these days, the rock gets less and less of a look-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    This is depressing alright—depressingly bad. The ‘singer’ is mediocre at best, and what’s with the bedroom voice? Tacky.
    I rather like her low-key delivery. It's an interesting change from the contemporary paradigm of belting divas, and it fits the music well.

    As for Big Star—exceptionally talented band. Radiohead? Not so much.
    I love Big Star, but never would I consider them more talented than Radiohead.

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