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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Yeah, gay or straight or bi like the other 7 billion humans on the planet.
    It's good that people know that now.
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    Are there stars in the sky?
    "That's all Folks!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    Are there stars in the sky?
    What do you mean by that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    What do you mean by that?
    It’s an old expression meaning yes.
    "That's all Folks!"

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    Couldn't care less. What really matters are his quality of works that were unique and absolutely beautiful

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    I am sure that Tchaikovsky's music could "sound gay", if that's what you want, but I'd have thought that's more a reflection on the listener than on the man himself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    Are there stars in the sky?
    As in:

    Is the Pope a Catholic?
    Is Betty Ford a clinic?
    Do bears s%*t in the woods?

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    Are bears Catholic? Does the Pope poop in the woods?

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    The fact that he was does not mean that someone puts a judgment on it. But he did have an emotionally turbulent life and that was probably part of it by having to keep it secret in Russia. I believe that some of that emotional turbulence can be heard in his later symphonies, perhaps even as a message of his suffering to the world. But does a judgment have to be placed on it? No. What composer was ever more emotionally courageous, sensitive, and open? And what a huge influence he was on some of the other Russian composers, such as Rachmaninoff, who was also quite similar in his emotional directness and openness. That emotional courage was a huge factor in Russian music. But to be a homosexual then was looked down on, and it’s still officially looked down on in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    Samuel Barber and Gian Carlo Menotti were a couple.
    A couple of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    I am sure that Tchaikovsky's music could "sound gay", if that's what you want, but I'd have thought that's more a reflection on the listener than on the man himself....
    C'mon! Dance Of The Sugar Plum Fairies is... well, very fairy like.
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    I have it on good authority that Bach was gay. He really wanted to hide it so he kept having children so people wouldn't discover his gayness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    I am sure that Tchaikovsky's music could "sound gay", if that's what you want, but I'd have thought that's more a reflection on the listener than on the man himself....
    What does gay music sound like? What parts of his music sound gay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoFlutesOneTrumpet View Post
    What does gay music sound like? What parts of his music sound gay?
    None of it. It's a stupid topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkenfield View Post
    It’s an old expression meaning yes.
    right. by asking a different question with an obvious yes answer.
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
    --Renata Scotto in "Scotto, More Than a DIva."

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