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    Default Hello Talkclassicalites!

    I came across this board after looking up Mozart information on Wikipedia and finding a link to a dead board. When I searched for more information, this board came up. I enjoyed reading the threads and had a couple of questions (which I'll ask in separate threads), so decided to join.

    I have no musical training or knowledge but have listened to classical as a varying (usually small, but sometimes significant) part of my soundscape for years, at least since I was a teen. I've gone through at least one intense spell of classical listening before and am going through another which has lasted for a few years and, so far, is only getting more active.

    I especially love the 18th century (and late 17th) from Corelli and the other late Baroque folks to the ends of Mozart and Haydn.

    I think that covers it. I look forward to learning more.

    Oh, and speaking of, is there an orientation thread or something which explains the "game" threads and the "tier" threads and things like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Listener View Post
    Oh, and speaking of, is there an orientation thread or something which explains the "game" threads and the "tier" threads and things like that?
    Not really. Science runs the "tier" threads. Most of the game threads are run by myself or Art Rock. The main differences between our games is that Art Rock goes with a maximum of 3 points per entry and game ends with the first work to reach 60 points. My maximum is 5 points per entry and game ends with first work to reach 100 points. Both of us generally use 10 points max. per day, but I increase that number for semi-final and final rounds.

    Here's a short hypothetical where each participant gets to vote once per day:

    Bach - WTC
    Beethoven - Diabelli Variations.
    Schumann - Kinderszenen

    Since I start the game, I place my votes first:

    Bach - WTC - 5 (+5)
    Beethoven - Diabelli Variations - 5 (+5)
    Schumann - Kinderszenen - 0

    The next voter does a copy and paste job on the most recent voting post. He gets rid of everything in parentheses and goes with 3 points for Bach, 3 for Beethoven, and 4 for Schumann:

    Bach - WTC - 8 (+3)
    Beethoven - Diabelli Variations - 8 (+3)
    Schumann - Kinderszenen - 4 (+4)

    The next voter follows suit but only uses 5 points total and gives them to Schumann (one can always use less than the max.):

    Bach - WTC - 8
    Beethoven - Diabelli Variations - 8
    Schumann - Kinderszenen - 9 (+5)

    And so it continues.

    Where do these entries come from? Usually, there is a selection thread where members are free to make up to so many selections. Selections made depend on the theme of the game.

    If you need to any clarification, just ask. Good to have you aboard!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    If you need to any clarification, just ask. Good to have you aboard!!
    Okay, thanks for the welcome and the explanation. It makes sense to me now. I guess my only other question about it now is if there were, say, 10 works and you only knew 5 of them, I'd figure you shouldn't vote for something you didn't know just because say, it's a composer you like, but would it still be okay to vote for the things you were familiar with (and thus penalize the others by simply not knowing them)? Or should you really be familiar with all of it? I imagine most of it could be found on youtube but I did notice someone mentioning taking 16 hours to listen to all the pieces and that seems like a tall order.

    (I mean, obviously, part of the point is to learn about new pieces and get familiar with them, but I just mean in certain cases where they are really numerous or long or not available.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Listener View Post
    Okay, thanks for the welcome and the explanation. It makes sense to me now. I guess my only other question about it now is if there were, say, 10 works and you only knew 5 of them, I'd figure you shouldn't vote for something you didn't know just because say, it's a composer you like, but would it still be okay to vote for the things you were familiar with (and thus penalize the others by simply not knowing them)? Or should you really be familiar with all of it? I imagine most of it could be found on youtube but I did notice someone mentioning taking 16 hours to listen to all the pieces and that seems like a tall order.

    (I mean, obviously, part of the point is to learn about new pieces and get familiar with them, but I just mean in certain cases where they are really numerous or long or not available.)
    You're the only person who knows what you're familiar with, and no criticisms are allowed concerning composers, works or voter motivation/knowledge. One of the great aspects of the games is that they are friendly zones.

    Personally, I insist on being familiar with all the works on the board; at least part of this requirement is that I'm the one running the game. Overall, I have no idea what other voters know or are familiar with.

    So, there are no shoulds. If a voter only knows 2 of the 20 works on the board and likes those 2, he/she is free to give those 2 works all the daily points available. Essentially, you're on your own.

    The number of hours needed to be familiar tends to be exaggerated. For a typical 20 work board, I usually know at least 8 to 12 of them. If I can be totally familiar with all the works on 10 or more games, it shouldn't be too hard for other participants to be familiar. I'm taking into account that most voters do not participate in every game or most of them. Just pick and choose. Of course, my preference is for participation in all games, but my preference is not realistic.

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    Welcome. Just jump in (you can join any ongoing game), vote for what you like, you don't have to know all works. A suggestion though: if you see others vote for works you don't know, it's good to check those out - if not for the game, then certainly because you can pick up new favourites that way.

    If you make mistakes, we'll point it out and correct them, no harm done.
    Allüberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen! Ewig ... ewig ...

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    Okay, thanks to you both and I hope to join in soon!

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