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    Quote Originally Posted by senza sordino View Post
    Last night and this afternoon, all from Spotify

    Chicago Transit Authority (released 1969)


    Chicago 2 (January 1970). I listened to the Steve Wilson remaster


    Chicago III (January 1971)


    Chicago V (July 1972)


    Chicago VI (June 1973)


    I skipped Chicago IV because it’s a live album, I’m only interested in listening to their studio albums. A few weeks ago I watched the documentary Chicago Now More than Ever, and I’m following in the footsteps of Elgar’s Ghost. There’s some really good stuff here. My mother got me into Chicago many many years ago.
    I did the exact same thing this weekend.

    By last night I'd gotten through "Side One" (of four) and part of Side Two of Chicago VII. This morning I started again at the beginning of VII - the first Side and a half are instrumental, a weird sort of jazzy-jammy hybrid. And it's their last double-LP album.

    In a way, it's an underappreciated masterpiece, as it moves from jamjazz to some very eclectic pop/rock.

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    I too skipped IV (Carnegie Hall) . . . Too much talking and downtime, and the sound is pretty awful.

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    Why in the world doesn't Chicago name their albums? It makes it harder for people to remember which album is which, and it makes them seem like a factory producing next year's model.

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    I really like some game soundtracks, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 and The Witcher 3 in particular. A lot of epic music. More enjoyable this way because when I'm playing, I'm too busy trying not to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bharbeke View Post
    Why in the world doesn't Chicago name their albums? It makes it harder for people to remember which album is which, and it makes them seem like a factory producing next year's model.
    After Chicago VIII that's pretty much what they became.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    Quote Originally Posted by bharbeke View Post
    Why in the world doesn't Chicago name their albums? It makes it harder for people to remember which album is which, and it makes them seem like a factory producing next year's model.
    Quote Originally Posted by elgars ghost View Post
    After Chicago VIII that's pretty much what they became.
    LOL

    After Chicago XI they fired their longtime producer Guercio, and guitarist Terry Kath died from an accidentally self-inflicted gunshot wound at a party. People were alarmed, and in his inebriated state he thought he calm them down by putting the gun to his head to prove it wasn't loaded. He was mistaken.

    Their twelfth album was named Hot Streets, and featured photos of the band on the cover instead of another clever version of their logo.

    A subsequent marketing survey noted that consumers expected to see the logo on the cover, so for their 13th album they returned to their logo, this time in the shape of a highrise building. It's also the first to NOT use roman numerals for the numbering.

    Supposedly their website has names for each of the covers:

    III is "Tattered Flag"
    X is "Chocolate Bar"
    XI is "Regional Map"
    XIV is the thumbprint one
    etc.

    . . . but I don't seem to be able to find that there.

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    Drinking some bourbon with Rain Dogs. Let's hope I know when to stop.

    Last edited by Red Terror; Feb-18-2020 at 04:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianozach View Post
    LOL

    After Chicago XI they fired their longtime producer Guercio, and guitarist Terry Kath died from an accidentally self-inflicted gunshot wound at a party. People were alarmed, and in his inebriated state he thought he calm them down by putting the gun to his head to prove it wasn't loaded. He was mistaken.

    Their twelfth album was named Hot Streets, and featured photos of the band on the cover instead of another clever version of their logo.

    A subsequent marketing survey noted that consumers expected to see the logo on the cover, so for their 13th album they returned to their logo, this time in the shape of a highrise building. It's also the first to NOT use roman numerals for the numbering.

    Supposedly their website has names for each of the covers:

    III is "Tattered Flag"
    X is "Chocolate Bar"
    XI is "Regional Map"
    XIV is the thumbprint one
    etc.

    . . . but I don't seem to be able to find that there.
    Screw chicago, I can't be bothered. Hell of a city, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    Screw chicago, I can't be bothered. Hell of a city, though.
    Probably a generational thing, but their first decade is special to me.

    NP: RIP John Christensen, brilliant Norwegian drummer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    Screw chicago, I can't be bothered. Hell of a city, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Probably a generational thing, but their first decade is special to me.
    .

    A sh!tload of extremely talented musicians that actually got it together and managed to record at least a dozen extraordinary albums.

    A shame it kinda just went bad. Those first 11 albums were bada$$. But the writing was already on the wall . . . first with disco and then punk, and a few ballad hits sung by Cetera. They fired their producer because he was "too overbearing", and then they lost Kath, their rock'n'roll conscience.

    I read somewhere that some record executive asked them to "drop the horns" (Hey! The Moody Blues caved in to "suit" pressure - Their album Ser La Mer had none of band member Ray Thomas' flute on it, and they mixed out all of his backing vocals).

    The band eventually became a "soft FM radio" ballad-maker, all but becoming Cetera's backing band. Then they fired the percussionist. Then Cetera left for a solo career. Then they fired virtuoso drummer Danny Seraphine, evidently for paying more attention to the business end of things instead of drumming (I read that to mean that he discovered he wasn't making as much as the band members).

    They rebelled in 1993 and recorded an entire album that took them several steps closer to their roots, which would have been XII, but instead titled called Stone of Sisyphus. It's planned released date was March 22, 1994.

    And their record company rejected the album. The label's rejection cascaded down to contribute to a "schism within the band".

    I managed to get my hands on a bootleg of the album long before it's eventual release in 2008, fourteen years after its original release date (although one track was inexplicably cut from the release without any explanation from the band, which ended up owning the release).

    From then on Chicago's fortunes meandered aimlessly, producing a Big Band album, a few Christmas albums, and a hodgepodge of uneven albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Probably a generational thing, but their first decade is special to me.
    How do we know? Red Terror might even be as old than us.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianozach View Post
    .

    Then they fired virtuoso drummer Danny Seraphine, evidently for paying more attention to the business end of things instead of drumming (I read that to mean that he discovered he wasn't making as much as the band members).
    I remember a Wall Street Journal article that said Seraphine had Mob connections, through his nightclub called "Beginnings."

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Probably a generational thing, but their first decade is special to me.

    NP: RIP John Christensen, brilliant Norwegian drummer.

    Out of much respect for starthrower's impeccable taste in music, I got a hold of "The Very Best of Chicago: Only the Beginning" to see what the big deal is about. As we speak, I am two songs in and so far, so good; 25 or 6 to 4 is a great song!

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    Dissing Chicago is so lame. CTA, their first album, is one of the greatest of all time. Admittedly I did not follow their pop stuff because in those days I considered it a mission to avoid pop music. But as someone who now enjoys a well-written pop song I can also enjoy Saturday in the Park...

    That song on their first album "Listen" still gives me goose bumps... such wicked horns... Chicago 68

    Also check out Sons of Champlin, Loosen Up Naturally is the album I know best "dancing on a hillside in the rain"

    Thread duty: got more of those Classic Albums sets with a number of good sides that were not in my collection... Monk, Grant Green, Larry Young, Ike Quebec, and Jackie McLean... groove city
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Probably a generational thing, but their first decade is special to me.

    NP: RIP John Christensen, brilliant Norwegian drummer.

    ECM giant. First Lyle Mays, now Jon. Very sad.
    Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate!

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