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    Hi all, does anyone know what is the difference between appoggiatura and accented passing note?

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    APPOGGIATURA: occurs on strong part of the beat; approached by a leap of a 3rd or more and resolved by step. Most often approached by a leap up and resolved by a step down, but any combination of directions is usable.

    ACCENTED PASSING NOTE: approached by step and left by step in the same direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post
    APPOGGIATURA: occurs on strong part of the beat; approached by a leap of a 3rd or more and resolved by step. Most often approached by a leap up and resolved by a step down, but any combination of directions is usable.

    ACCENTED PASSING NOTE: approached by step and left by step in the same direction.
    Thank you for the reply..but I'm still confused. Isn't accented passing note also occurs on the strong beat? and also approached by a leap of a 3rd?

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    Yes, the accented passing note will fall on the main (strong) part of the beat. The accented passing note by definition cannot be approached via leap, it must be "sandwiched" between two notes.

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    I guess I kinda get it now. Alright thanks for the help

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    Maybe this can help :
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    I think what needs to be emphasized here is the harmonic context. In WIK, we find that "an appoggiatura is a musical ornament that consists of an added non-chord note in a melody that is resolved to the regular note of the chord.

    By putting the non-chord tone on a strong beat, this accents the appoggiatura note, which also delays the appearance of the principal, expected chord note.

    The added non-chord note is typically one degree higher or lower than the principal note; and if lower, it may be chromatically raised. An appoggiatura may be added to a melody in a vocal song or in an instrumental work.

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    Also sprach WIK,

    A passing tone (PT) or passing note is a nonchord tone prepared by a chord tone a step above or below it and resolved by continuing in the same direction stepwise to the next chord tone (which is either part of the same chord or of the next chord in the harmonic progression).

    If it's accented, it's just on a strong beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    I think what needs to be emphasized here is the harmonic context. In WIK, we find that "an appoggiatura is a musical ornament that consists of an added non-chord note in a melody that is resolved to the regular note of the chord.

    By putting the non-chord tone on a strong beat, this accents the appoggiatura note, which also delays the appearance of the principal, expected chord note.

    The added non-chord note is typically one degree higher or lower than the principal note; and if lower, it may be chromatically raised. An appoggiatura may be added to a melody in a vocal song or in an instrumental work.
    Nah, too many words, Million !!
    The document attachment I provided above your post puts it better 'coz the notes speak louder than the words.

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    Also, "passing tone" or "passing note" are sub-varieties of "nonchord tones."

    A nonchord tone (NCT), nonharmonic tone, or embellishing tone is a note in a piece of music or song that is not part of the implied or expressed chord set out by the harmonic framework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post
    Nah, too many words, Million !!
    The document attachment I provided above your post puts it better 'coz the notes speak louder than the words.
    I was writing my post when you posted your attachment. Also, I can't get into your attachment; it reads "locked."

    ...but your reply (post #8) acknowledges that the attachment (post #6) is better, not your initial explanation in posts #2 and #4.
    Also, remember that your post #4 was prompted by need for further clarification which your post #2 apparently did not provide.
    ...so, in light of these facts, I'm still sitting pretty!
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    TH, the attachment didn't work for me.

    Can you run that again, thanks.
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    Hello Potiphera, maybe it works better in PDF format:
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    Still, no one else has offered an explanation in words for the OP's question.
    If the OP's ear is good enough, and they actually go to a piano and play the examples, maybe it will work, maybe not.
    I still think the chord/non-chord context needs to be explained in words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    Still, no one else has offered an explanation in words for the OP's question.
    If the OP's ear is good enough, and they actually go to a piano and play the examples, maybe it will work, maybe not.
    I still think the chord/non-chord context needs to be explained in words.
    Many of my students don't play the piano. The solution is very simple: enter the notes into a suitable notation software with playback such as Finale, or MuseScore. Unless you actually "play" (hear) the examples, explanations using just words without aural context are useless.
    And yes, "[my] reply (post #8) acknowledges that the attachment (post #6) is better, not [my] initial explanation in posts #2 and #4.
    Have a cigar and give yourself a pat on the head.
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    Well, puff, your explanation #2 was still inadequate.
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