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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    The Warriors strategy of surrounding Leonard with top-rate defensive players did work in that Leonard had a tough time. However, it allowed Toronto's other players to get plenty of good shots. If the Warriors continue this strategy, I think they will lose the series.

    Then there's Durant. Will he play at all? Will he be rusty? He's the key player for Golden State, and he is an unknown at this point.

    As for Cousins, he was useless. Even when healthy, he can be a liability.
    Yes a lot depends on injuries, with up to 6 games to go. And the commentators think Warriors will change their strategy of double-teaming Leonard, in order to stop some of the others. Durant coming back would be very significant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    The Warriors strategy of surrounding Leonard with top-rate defensive players did work in that Leonard had a tough time. However, it allowed Toronto's other players to get plenty of good shots. If the Warriors continue this strategy, I think they will lose the series.

    Then there's Durant. Will he play at all? Will he be rusty? He's the key player for Golden State, and he is an unknown at this point.

    As for Cousins, he was useless. Even when healthy, he can be a liability.
    I saw Cousins make one good assist, but did he play more than 5 minutes? Did Bogut play at all? Is Iguadala too injured to play? Was Looney a factor? And Klay lost his head... I think the refs have seen that stunt he pulled before... so they said "not in these Finals"...

    The Warriors are not a popular team... Toronto has a whole nation behind them... Mr Silver is paid to notice these things...

    Drake to Draymond - "you're just trash" - Adam will see that too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by philoctetes View Post
    Drake to Draymond - "you're just trash" - Adam will see that too...
    Drake's an embarassment to Toronto. Maybe this time he'll get banned! Detracting from the Raptors' achievements in my opinion.

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    Their feud doesn't seem to have that touch of class we saw with Spike and Reggie...

    Then there's the guy in the turban, he seems to keep his cool...
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    Quote Originally Posted by philoctetes View Post
    Before the game I read the previous post with amusement. I hope it's safe to say now that expectations can be adjusted? The Raptors we see now are better than the Raptors we saw when the playoffs started. Siakam is a breakout player who could be series MVP if he has another game like last night.

    The world is laughing at Paul Pierce and he must be getting used to that. But the Warriors never put up a real challenge last night, no 3Q comeback, and that's impressive. Their bench can shoot but can it rebound and stop a Raptor team that is surprisingly good at passing the ball?

    The NBA may be about 3-pointers, during the regular season. but during the playoffs it's about rebounding, defense, getting to the free throw line, and home court advantage... and the Raptors had all that last night, including the tres...

    Would anybody change their bets now?
    Van Vleet mentioned during the conference finals at one point that it was too much of Leonard carrying the team. It's good Gasol really seemed to contribute a lot more. I think he was a big part of the recent success.
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    Is Durant hoping the team will lose without him?

    https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/arti...y-13962116.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Is Durant hoping the team will lose without him?

    https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/arti...y-13962116.php
    He's not thinking about this year anymore IMO... too bad I will miss the game but I just got tickets to see Dhafour Youssef and Tigran Himasyan tonight...

    Cousins doesn't have a quick release from outside. Curry was in the wrong place on defense in all of game 4 and the refs are not giving him the sideways hip or foot kick foul anymore. Klay was visibly upset with Steph who is now acting like a lost kid on the court, slouching and making faces... The refs are not going to let the Warriors win dirty - no more Patchouli Oil defense on runouts, etc - and I'm OK with that.
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    You won't miss it. It's tomorrow night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    You won't miss it. It's tomorrow night!
    I will be watching tomorrow. Police have told people in Toronto not to bring cars downtown, for someone like me it will be something to stay away from -- everyone going bananas if Toronto wins or maybe even if they lose, which is quite possible. Like a Beethoven Symphony, it ain't over till it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Knox View Post
    I will be watching tomorrow. Police have told people in Toronto not to bring cars downtown, for someone like me it will be something to stay away from -- everyone going bananas if Toronto wins or maybe even if they lose, which is quite possible. Like a Beethoven Symphony, it ain't over till it's over.
    Lucky you. I watched on TV, but the way they hyped it on Sportsnet, and added music, narrative and drama pre-game was so unbearable, I switched to ABC. Disappointed in the TO fans cheering when KD went down. I cheered for the Dubs in this game to win, was a real nail biter ending.
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    I missed a lot of the game, had an unexpected visitor... but KD wasted no time getting trashy with Van Vleet, who had his own injury, so the fans were already hating KD before he went down... now KD has an Achilles injury so I hope Warriors management are happy with themselves...

    If the Warriors win, KD should get MVP just for showing up last night. Then he should get out of CA ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philoctetes View Post
    I missed a lot of the game, had an unexpected visitor... but KD wasted no time getting trashy with Van Vleet, who had his own injury, so the fans were already hating KD before he went down... now KD has an Achilles injury so I hope Warriors management are happy with themselves...

    If the Warriors win, KD should get MVP just for showing up last night. Then he should get out of CA ASAP.
    Not sure if there is anyone to blame, from some sources it sounded like he was dying to play. I was glad that he made a huge impact, contrary to Bowen saying he would be a liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Not sure if there is anyone to blame, from some sources it sounded like he was dying to play. I was glad that he made a huge impact, contrary to Bowen saying he would be a liability.
    Lots of agony to go around in Game 5. Can Game 6 in the Oracle -- last ever -- be any crazier than this one was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Not sure if there is anyone to blame, from some sources it sounded like he was dying to play. I was glad that he made a huge impact, contrary to Bowen saying he would be a liability.
    The Warriors certainly in that last minute gave the Raptors every opportunity to take the victory from them, from the backcourt foul, to the moving screen. Luckily they pulled together some great defense on that final play.

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    Not happy with the Raptors' fans cheering in Game 5 when KD went down, although it quickly turned to appreciative clapping when they realized he was injured. Raptors now need to get the defense together as they've done previously, and have better flow in shot setup and execution in the Oracle.

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