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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    This doesn't sound like a soprano to me. She sounds really strained. Recording made in 1959.

    She sounds like exactly what she was: a mezzo thinking she's a soprano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Flagstad said that her voice grew in size after she gave birth to her daughter. She had considered retiring after her early career in Norway, but as we know her big "new voice" got her a big new career as one of the greatest of Wagnerian sopranos.
    I wonder if Goerke had a child before her voice tripled in size. I don't know anything about her life. Something happened. I heard her in Norma 15 years ago and she sounds much much bigger now, although her high D was epic.
    Ponselle never had children. She had the voice of a grown woman at 10. Fach is difficult for someone who could sing tenor to soprano without break, but the fact that many knowledgeable opera experts consider her the greatest Verdi soprano of all time leads me to think she sang in the right fach.
    Last edited by Seattleoperafan; Jun-13-2019 at 04:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    I hear a great deal of singing by major performers on major stages that fits that description.
    That's my main concern. Netrebko is just the most prominent example of the decline of vocal art. But all the criticism unfortunately applies to so many other major singers. Her male counterpart Kaufmann for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    That's exactly where my confusion about all the Netrebko hate comes from. Sure she's no Tebaldi, but who that is singing today is?
    It's not as much hate as constructive criticism. I for one, adore Netrebko, I love WATCHING her. She's gorgeous. I simply can't listen to her without cringing though (except in very few and early recordings, mainly in Russian.)
    The fierce backlash towards her is simply proportional to the amount of worship and praise clueless fans/critics are bestowing on her -considerably more than any other major singer today- going as far as comparing her to Callas and saying she's even better (yes some critic said that after the deplorable 2014 Salzburg trovatore.)
    Last edited by Tuoksu; Jun-13-2019 at 10:54.

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