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    The price that Amazon US shows is extremely cheap. I would almost get it just for the info and pictures if that is the product advertised. I remember there was also a 1956 Traviata in that edition. I don't think SQ can be much better. They didn't have German radios unfortunately. We're so lucky that the Scala Lucia production traveled to Berlin with Callas and Karajan...

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    La Fanciulla del West is an opera that I really should explore. I've heard good things about it. I have the Mehta recording and this one, though I haven't properly listened to either one yet:

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    The only person I recognize on the EMI set is Nilsson. Is it worth a listen?
    (It has Nilsson, so obviously I'll listen to it either way )

    Also, I read that the Tebaldi recording on Decca and the Nilsson recording have cuts. Can someone explain where these potential cuts are or what recording is complete without cuts?

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    It IS worth the listen. Whether it is a winner for me is another matter, but certainly a honourable mention.
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    Also, I read that the Tebaldi recording on Decca and the Nilsson recording have cuts. Can someone explain where these potential cuts are or what recording is complete without cuts?
    The cuts are traditional and were mostly made by Puccini after the premiere. The first is a scene in Act I where Billy Jackrabbit is seen stealing something. This occurs where the arrival of the post does in the standard version. It's not a great scene, and really only slows things down and adds to the opera's racism. It was re-inserted in the Met performance released on DVD from the early 90s with Domingo and Daniels conducted by Slatkin.

    The second cut occurs in the scene between Minnie and Johnson at the end of Act I. It is a passage in which Minnie reflects more fully on the lives of the miners. The only recording of it I know of is from a CD of Puccini rarities, sung by Violetta Urmana. afaik, it's never been included in a full recording. (Cut music begins at 1:15)


    The third cut is in the love duet in Act II. It is a sort exclamation point on the love duet. I don't really care for it. Puccini inserted it as an afterthought, and his first thoughts were better. It can be heard in the great 1954 recording from Florence with Del Monaco and Steber (beginning at 12:37):


    As far as I know, those are the only cuts, although I haven't listened to the Nilsson recording in full because I don't much care for it.

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    Thank you, vivalagentenuova!
    It looks like basically all recordings would have cuts then. If these are cuts or changes that Puccini himself ended up making later, then the cuts don't bother me.
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    I believe all but the Act II cut were sanctioned by Puccini, but that was an add on anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    La Fanciulla del West is an opera that I really should explore. I've heard good things about it. I have the Mehta recording and this one, though I haven't properly listened to either one yet:

    Attachment 134310

    The only person I recognize on the EMI set is Nilsson. Is it worth a listen?
    (It has Nilsson, so obviously I'll listen to it either way )

    Also, I read that the Tebaldi recording on Decca and the Nilsson recording have cuts. Can someone explain where these potential cuts are or what recording is complete without cuts?
    Tough one to come by. None listing on Amazon and it is $40 and up on ebay.
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    I think the Mehta recording is better than the Matacic, but Capuana, Mitropoulos, and Basile are the best. Mehta is not a good conductor for Puccini in my opinion. His Turandot and his Fanciulla steamroll the details and richness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Tough one to come by. None listing on Amazon and it is $40 and up on ebay.
    Yeah, I was worried I'd never get one for a good price, but big thanks to my mom! She saw it on my Amazon wishlist and decided to check Ebay. There happened to be one for a lot cheaper at the time, and she bought it for me!
    Thank you, mom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Tough one to come by. None listing on Amazon and it is $40 and up on ebay.
    You can sample it on youtube--



    I enjoy Nilsson's performance but I'm not fond of Gibin's. It hasn't made it to the top of my shopping list.
    Last edited by howlingfantods; Apr-22-2020 at 07:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Tough one to come by. None listing on Amazon and it is $40 and up on ebay.
    It seems that EMI has released this recording twice.

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    This one is available on UK's Amazon for a bit under 40$ and the other release is available in many other European Amazons. Although I think shipping cost is higher than the price difference.

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    Had never even heard of this recording before, and just listening to it right now. But the parts I've heard are outstanding! Great singing, the best Johnson ever (other than possibly Caruso, but we don't know about that), and the conducting by Votto is superb. The prelude alone is better than anything Mehta or von Matacic did with the score. He uses real rubato to shape some beautiful phrases. Sound is less than desired, but oh well. I find these Italian conductors from the 50s are a bit underrated (except de Sabata and Serafin, who were recognized).

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    Hey what's up with this sung-in-German set? UPC=8712177048946 Any good?
    Last edited by SixFootScowl; Apr-22-2020 at 18:38.
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