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    There are many good recordings of Mahler Symphony No. 4 and many good soloists. The part is usually sung by an adult female soprano.

    My question: are there any recordings utilizing child soloists, other than the two I will now mention?

    The most well known is Bernstein and his offering featuring Helmut Wittek. Now, I've listened to this one and will refrain from comment.
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    Then there is Anton Nanut and the un-pronouncable Orchestra with Max Cemcic. I greatly like this one.
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    Are there others? Has anyone used a girl child as soloist? I like that a child sings the part. After all the words are a child singing about asparagus in Heaven. Don't get me wrong, I like the ladies in the role also, and that may have been GM's intent, but I'm curious.

    I'm sure the Mahler fan base can fill me in.
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    As far as I am aware, that's it, unaware of any others with a treble, and was only aware of the Ljubljana recording, never heard it.

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    No fan of the Bernstein/Vienna, OP? I love his NYPO, don't know who is the soloist, but I know it's a woman.

    I really love Mahler's 4th, but... children's choirs are one thing; child soloists kind of freak me out. I will pass on these.

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    The only other one that I know uses a transcription for chamber ensemble:

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Bernstein....I love his NYPO, don't know who is the soloist, but I know it's a woman.
    The soloist in the Bernstein/New York Philharmonic Mahler Fourth is Reri Grist. I have long felt her singing in the final movement comes closer to sounding child-like in comparison with any of the soloists in my other favorite Mahler Fourths: Klemperer/Philharmonia with Schwarzkopf, Kletzki/Philharmonia with Loose, Solti/Amsterdam (Royal) Concertgebouw with Stahlman, Kubelik/BRSO with Morison and Horenstein/London Philharmonic with Price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydn67 View Post
    The soloist in the Bernstein/New York Philharmonic Mahler Fourth is Reri Grist. I have long felt her singing in the final movement comes closer to sounding child-like in comparison with any of the soloists in my other favorite Mahler Fourths: Klemperer/Philharmonia with Schwarzkopf, Kletzki/Philharmonia with Loose, Solti/Amsterdam (Royal) Concertgebouw with Stahlman, Kubelik/BRSO with Morison and Horenstein/London Philharmonic with Price.
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    The soloists that I like best are Barbara Bonney (Decca, with Chailly and the RCO) and Sylvia McNair (Philips, with Haitink and the Berlin PO).

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    Of the three recordings using a boy soloist mentioned in the above posts, by far the best is Max Emmanuel Cencic on the Nanut / Ljubljana recording. Unfortunately it's very had to get hold of as a hard CD, but it is available to listen to on Youtube and Spotify.

    Helmut Wittek sounds uncomfortable on the Bernstein recording, trying just that bit too hard, whereas Cencic has a confident but not-quite-perfect, natural tembre that gives an edgy innocence to the sound he creates. For me, Daniel Hellman in the chamber performance is far too artificial and is probably the least successful of the three.
    There may come a time when Youtube won't let us do this...

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    They must be the only ones then. We have so many Mahler experts here that I expected more. But maybe there is no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhoosierdude View Post

    Then there is Anton Nanut and the un-pronouncable Orchestra
    Ljubljana = "Lee-oob-lee-ana"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reichstag aus LICHT View Post
    Ljubljana = "Lee-oob-lee-ana"
    Cool. I never knew what to think.
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