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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    A ridiculous comparison. Led Zeppelin is far superior in many ways: musicianship, production, conception, everything.
    Zeppelin and Beatles are without a doubt two of the most overated rockbands of all time . They ripped off other bands. Most of their catalog is trash. Even their hits are vapid at best. Every genuine rocker knows that bands like Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Iron Maiden and ZZ Top are hundred times better than Led Zep

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    I am blessed! I am not a ''genuine rocker".

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    Of course I am being deliberatly provocative (hence the strong language), but I do think that they are overrated (ie I they are rated higher than I myself value their music). There are seriously like 30 rock bands that I prefer to Led Zeppelin.
    Last edited by Jacck; Aug-06-2019 at 13:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    Of course I am being deliberatly provocative (hence the strong language), but I do think that they are overrated (ie I they are rated higher than I myself value their music). There are seriously like 30 rock bands that I prefer to Led Zeppelin.
    de gustibus non disputandum est.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    de gustibus non disputandum est.
    Magic, aquí se habla inglés.


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    Steely Dan. They have metal in their name, so they are metal, ha. Truth be that I also listen to them far more than any of the other bands under discussion here.

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    I'm enjoying this - it reminds me a little of the debates we used to have in the Sixth Form common room in 1979.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-l...ds-of-all-time
    these rankings are ridiculous. I immediately had to downvote the first five, although among the 50K votes, my vote got lost The more interesting bands start from Nr 6 downwards.

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    "Who were the real kings of 70s metal?" was the original question (as we recall). The true answer is that Led Zeppelin were the real kings of 70s metal, but were themselves not metal. They transcended metal while simultaneously inspiring, triggering, catalyzing that genre among a host of other bands who--shall we say--confused a part of Led Zeppelin's eclectic product with being their whole utterance. It's almost as if Zep perpetrated a massive head fake upon many of their contemporaries and sent them flying off to study metallurgy, while the Zeppelin cruised on far above, heading for many distant destinations.

    An analogous situation might be the case of Dylan. After him come the regional and quasi-imitative American Dudes--Joel, Springsteen, Young, Seger, Mellencamp, Petty--all wonderful and beloved (by me) talents, yet not Dylans. The term that is used for artists like Dylan and Led Zeppelin is sui generis; they are unique.

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    I'd say this was more unique for its time. No one had ever played anything quite like this in the late 60s.

    Last edited by Merl; Aug-06-2019 at 18:52.

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    I am no Zeppelin conoisseur, but I hear no metal in their music. My favorite rock subgenres are hard-rock / punk rock / psychedelic rock / southern rock. Zeppelin is neither of that, they sound more like folk rock/blues with a very bad singer. Black Sabbath sounds like hard-rock / psychedelic rock / heavy-metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I'd say this was more unique for its time. No one had ever played anything quite like this in the late 60s.

    Led Zeppelin had released their second album with Whole Lotta Love almost 6 months before Black Sabbath hit the airwaves. Which song is "more unique"? No, Led Zeppelin had been confounding the rock audience with new, different, loud, complex sounds for more than a year before the rest of the field started following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-l...ds-of-all-time
    these rankings are ridiculous. I immediately had to downvote the first five,
    I thought the first five were right on target, but I would have liked that David Bowie was higher.

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    How many really like metal here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    I thought the first five were right on target, but I would have liked that David Bowie was higher.
    I would like to see many bands much higher, for example The Moody Blues, Neil Young, Santana, Jethro Tull, Blue Öyster Cult etc., but these rankings are often not about the quality of the music, but about how well known the given band is.

    for example this song

    blows all the hits by Zeppelin and Beatles out of the water. Great lyrics, great singing, amazing guitar solos etc.

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