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    Wilhelm Furtwangler - The Great EMI Recordings 21-disk set is on sale now at Presto Classical for $19.99. Includes all nine Beethoven symphonies (three different orchestras though), Brahm's four symphonies, Tristan und Isolde, and many other works all listed in the linked page.
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    ^^^^
    Not the best sound available, but that is a frickin great price for 21 CD set, normal price is $74!
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    The mega 34 disc DG boxset is coming soon Sept 27, should go for about $80 Amazon sellers......



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Wilhelm Furtwangler - The Great EMI Recordings 21-disk set is on sale now at Presto Classical for $19.99. Includes all nine Beethoven symphonies (three different orchestras though), Brahm's four symphonies, Tristan und Isolde, and many other works all listed in the linked page.
    Mine arrived yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Mine arrived yesterday.
    Mine too Well, two days ago actually, but I just started listening yesterday. The sound (on disc one, anyway) is quite excellent. Doesn't leave too much to be desired, as far as mono sound goes.

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    That DG boxset looks fantastic. Lots of great performances from throughout his career. A gold mine, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    The mega 34 disc DG boxset is coming soon Sept 27, should go for about $80 Amazon sellers......


    ALERT Ping.......

    Presto UK has this listed now for $73, release date Sept 27 website has track listings

    Many early recordings included from 1929-36, but they do not include alternate performances of same work so you get only one Beethoven 9th for instance (this is a big mistake!)

    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...cca-recordings
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    ALERT Ping.......

    Presto UK has this listed now for $73, release date Sept 27 website has track listings

    Many early recordings included from 1929-36, but they do not include alternate performances of same work so you get only one Beethoven 9th for instance (this is a big mistake!)

    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...cca-recordings
    Noticed some misprints. The 1942 Bruckner should be the 5th, not the 4th. And the wartime Beethoven 4th, 5th, and Coriolan are from 1943, not 1942.

    As I said, this is a gold mine for Furt fans, far superior to the EMI offering in terms of performance quality.

    Where do you see a Beethoven 9th? The one disappointment for me was that they omitted the 1953 VPO 9th which was issued previously by DG as a single in their “Wiener Philharmoniker” series.

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    In the Dg mega set. Do you know or think if the sound will be better than the 80s and 90s editions that are what I have in many cases?
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    My god, I have just revised the Dg official site and is true. The 9th with WPO is omitted. So there is not a complete DG and Decca recordings. What other recordings will be ommited? Why to lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondowe View Post
    In the Dg mega set. Do you know or think if the sound will be better than the 80s and 90s editions that are what I have in many cases?
    Greetings
    My god, I have just revised the Dg official site and is true. The 9th with WPO is omitted. So there is not a complete DG and Decca recordings. What other recordings will be ommited? Why to lie.
    Where do you see a Beethoven 9th? The one disappointment for me was that they omitted the 1953 VPO 9th which was issued previously by DG as a single in their “Wiener Philharmoniker” series.
    BH is right much worse than I thought.....
    Not only no alternates of best works but the true shocker NO B9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Here's the missing recording:

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    That's exceedingly weird. Two Schubert 9th recordings, a Bruckner 9th, but no Beethoven 9th?
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    Can anybody tell me if the sound of the Pristine editions of, say, Beethoven 5th 1943 or Bruckner 8th 1944, is better than the pseudo-stereo made in japan and can be finded in youtube?
    Thanks and greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondowe View Post
    Can anybody tell me if the sound of the Pristine editions of, say, Beethoven 5th 1943 or Bruckner 8th 1944, is better than the pseudo-stereo made in japan and can be finded in youtube?
    Thanks and greetings
    I have new Japan Tahra (King Records releases) and subscribe to Pristine XR streaming, I think the best sound for most wartime Furtwangler is the new BP SACD Boxset......don't expect any miracles but slight edge in better sound

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    I have discovered. (Late I know) another page, furtwanglersound, with transfers by Eduardo Chibas that claims to have the best sound, better even than Pristine. Ihave listened some parts with the demos of both transfers and have no ears to note difference. (Suppose my problem)
    Anybody could compare it?
    Greetings

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