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    Itullian, you need to get Leibowitz. He's my go-to: modern instruments but HIP tempo, takes almost all the repeats indicated and his interpretations are all first rate. The recording was done by Decca's team for Reader's Digest back in the 1960s so it's excellent sound as well.

    Plus he has the virtue of being very cheap in download form:
    https://www.amazon.com/Genius-Beetho.../dp/B00JWNY1QA
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    Quote Originally Posted by gardibolt View Post
    Itullian, you need to get Leibowitz...
    Leibowitz does a great cycle. Unfortunately, he's most remembered for calling Sibelius "the worst composer in the world." Well, more accurately, "le plus mauvais compositeur du monde".
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Leibowitz does a great cycle. Unfortunately, he's most remembered for calling Sibelius "the worst composer in the world." Well, more accurately, "le plus mauvais compositeur du monde".
    He also wrote a very interesting, if dense, book on Schoenberg. This is the first I'm hearing that he was also a conductor too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    He also wrote a very interesting, if dense, book on Schoenberg. This is the first I'm hearing that he was also a conductor too.
    And a very good one too, at least in this case. I totally agree with Gardibolt about his Beethoven cycle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Leibowitz does a great cycle. Unfortunately, he's most remembered for calling Sibelius "the worst composer in the world." Well, more accurately, "le plus mauvais compositeur du monde".
    And for Boulez saying to him 'vous etes de merde' / 'you are ####'.
    I agree, it's a good and interesting cycle.
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    A question for Beethoven aficionados concerning the Karajan 1963 cycle. I'm sure this has been answered but I don't know where to find it. Which set sounds better, with good dynamics? The 1990 box, or the remastered 2014 set? The big companies don't always get it right in the former or later department, so what are your opinions if you've listened to both sets? Thanks!
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    I have the remastered set done for the Beethoven Edition (see below pic) and that was much better than the original CD release, which didn't sound natural at all especially at high volumes. I've not heard further remasters but I've been told (by a self- confessed Karajan nut that I know) that the sound of the stereo layer of the last SACD remaster is a slight improvement over it but the SACD sounds much better and is really impressive. The soundstage on that DG Beethoven Edition box, I have, is damn good IMO and took out some of the original tape hiss, balanced the orchestra better {especially noticeable in the Pastoral} and sounds more natural. There's only so much tinkering they can do. Remasters are always hit or miss. For example I have Hickox's Beethoven cycle on individual discs and it sounds quite good (shame about some of the performances) but when the cycle was boxed it was remastered and it sounds muddy and quite vile. I've copies of Vol. 1 of that Beethoven Edition (containing Beethoven's 63 cycle) going for pennies on Ebay over the past few years. Only last week there was a mint copy going for £2 (£4 with p&p). Stupidly cheap for such a benchmark set.

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    I'm a bit more cautious with DG because there tends to be a harsh quality to many of there recordings. The Bohm Beethoven set I bought recently sounds good, but I don't think the Bernstein Mahler sounds all that great. I have the two Mahler lieder discs by Boulez and the one with the No. 10 Adagio sounds harsh in the strings. But the other disc with von Otter sounds great.
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