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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Maiden
    Just by the name and composer I know I'll love this one; what should I expect? What recordings are recommended? And when played live, is the stage covered with snow or something or that's just a name? I attended "The Nutcracker" last year and the stage was covered with real ice...

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    You might also take a look at "The Cunning Little Vixen" by Janacek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    when played live, is the stage covered with snow or something or that's just a name?
    the name suggests she is bound to melt if direct sunbeam finds her, and the opera settings take place during springtime and summer, among some heathen tribe in their kingdom... a relevant read here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_Native_Faith






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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhdanov View Post
    the name suggests she is bound to melt if direct sunbeam finds her, and the opera settings take place during springtime and summer, among some heathen tribe in their kingdom... a relevant read here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_Native_Faith





    Wasn't Rimsky-Korsakov Russian Orthodox? Don't tell me he was neo-pagan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    Wasn't Rimsky-Korsakov Russian Orthodox?
    which of his works indicate he were? Russian Orthodox - they all of course positioned themselves to be that, inside then society, but in fact there's a strong reference to Paganism in most of their works. Stravinsky for instance was a pupil of Rimsky-Korsakov and took a lot from his as influence on The Rite Of Spring later on.

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    Don't tell me he was neo-pagan...
    he promoted it, and it was The Mighty Five who have contributed most to the acceptance of pagan features in art by the upcoming Soviet ideology.

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    I have read that RK was not very religious, even though his grave stone is. He did use church music tunes for melodic material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhdanov View Post

    he promoted it, and it was The Mighty Five who have contributed most to the acceptance of pagan features in art by the upcoming Soviet ideology.
    Did Slavic neo-paganism even exist at that time? I mean, only converts to Russian Orthodoxy among Jews could leave the area of settlement, how strong was Orthodoxy among main Russian society back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    Did Slavic neo-paganism even exist at that time?
    it did. Russia's never been fully Christianised; she went on with pagan rites of Maslenitsa & Ivan-Kupala.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    how strong was Orthodoxy among main Russian society back then?
    well, not too strong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhdanov View Post
    it did. Russia's never been fully Christianised; she went on with pagan rites of Maslenitsa & Ivan-Kupala.
    The second one between 6th the 7th of July? That's the time Beethoven wrote his "immortal beloved", and the latter is also my birthday :>!
    Last edited by Clouds Weep Snowflakes; Aug-05-2019 at 17:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds Weep Snowflakes View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Maiden
    Just by the name and composer I know I'll love this one; what should I expect? What recordings are recommended? And when played live, is the stage covered with snow or something or that's just a name? I attended "The Nutcracker" last year and the stage was covered with real ice...
    - Recordings - there's an OK one on Spotify by the Bolshoi Theatre, and also you can find the Paris Opera's recent production on Youtube which is quite good

    - Staging? I saw it in the Mariinsky last year and their production is... I would use the word "garish". You can see some photos here: link. There wasn't any ice or snow or anything that I can remember. However, the actual performance (conducted by Gergiev, Aida Garifullina in the title role) was fantastic and incredibly moving. It is indeed a great opera and if you ever have the chance to see it live, go for it!

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