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    Anyone find the New York Times coverage any more helpful than some of the more rudimentary articles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
    Anyone find the New York Times coverage any more helpful than some of the more rudimentary articles?
    I tried to read some usa coverage - sadly many have a paywall or require subscription.

    There's a Guardian article - summing up quite nicely whey the opera houses are rallying around Domingo

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...lacido-domingo

    the writer of this one also had previous knowledge of Domingo's alleged behaviour.

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    Try this one - it only requires a free subscription.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/18/a...arassment.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSaunders View Post
    "they felt emboldened by the #MeToo movement and decided the most effective way to attack the entrenched sexual misconduct in their industry was to call out the behavior of opera's most prominent figure."
    should have said right away there's a great deal of politics involved; witch hunt that is.

    go and get your copy of Malleus Maleficārum to clearly see what's what, guys.

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    Right on cue, as ever. Heaven forbid victims of harassment try to publicly warn people about it and deter other sex pests in the process, that's unthinkable.

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    Since Placido Domingo is a Spaniard, it occurred to me that it might be useful to check out the social norms in Spain when greeting people, in terms of the accepted, normal physical contact such as kissing and touching upon first encounter.

    What I did was enter "spain social greeting kissing" into my preferred search engine which happens to be Google.

    It threw up a lot of interesting results. I'm not going to make any attempt to summarise these in any detail, but instead suggest that if anyone is interested they might do the same as above, and follow a few links. The results are interesting.

    Now that I know what a "Spanish kiss" is, I must admit, being a Brit, I wouldn't fancy receiving one such myself, but I guess "when in Spain ..."

    Combine this Spanish kissing malarchy with the fact that Domingo is very famous, and presumably a very ebullient and outgoing person, probably a lot more so than a typical Spaniard, and this may provide at least part of a possible rational explanation for some of the alleged behaviour towards certain females with whom he has had close working contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partita View Post
    Since Placido Domingo is a Spaniard, it occurred to me that it might be useful to check out the social norms in Spain when greeting people, in terms of the accepted, normal physical contact such as kissing and touching upon first encounter.

    What I did was enter "spain social greeting kissing" into my preferred search engine which happens to be Google.

    It threw up a lot of interesting results. I'm not going to make any attempt to summarise these in any detail, but instead suggest that if anyone is interested they might do the same as above, and follow a few links. The results are interesting.

    Now that I know what a "Spanish kiss" is, I must admit, being a Brit, I wouldn't fancy receiving one such myself, but I guess "when in Spain ..."

    Combine this Spanish kissing malarchy with the fact that Domingo is very famous, and presumably a very ebullient and outgoing person, probably a lot more so than a typical Spaniard, and this may provide at least part of a possible rational explanation for some of the alleged behaviour towards certain females with whom he has had close working contact.
    I dont think so.

    In Britain many men, me for example, greet female friends with a kiss to the cheek. If done correctly - it would imply no sexual menace.

    And Domingo is not stupid - he would be aware that these customs don't necessarily travel well.

    Good try though. At least you are now allowing some possibility that these women are not complete fabricators - albeit they are misinterpreting Domingo's intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partita View Post
    Since Placido Domingo is a Spaniard, it occurred to me that it might be useful to check out the social norms in Spain when greeting people, in terms of the accepted, normal physical contact such as kissing and touching upon first encounter.

    What I did was enter "spain social greeting kissing" into my preferred search engine which happens to be Google.

    It threw up a lot of interesting results. I'm not going to make any attempt to summarise these in any detail, but instead suggest that if anyone is interested they might do the same as above, and follow a few links. The results are interesting.

    Now that I know what a "Spanish kiss" is, I must admit, being a Brit, I wouldn't fancy receiving one such myself, but I guess "when in Spain ..."

    Combine this Spanish kissing malarchy with the fact that Domingo is very famous, and presumably a very ebullient and outgoing person, probably a lot more so than a typical Spaniard, and this may provide at least part of a possible rational explanation for some of the alleged behaviour towards certain females with whom he has had close working contact.
    Compared to Americans and Britons, Latins can seem very demonstrative. I don't think it's irrational to assume that Domingo was raised to be quite "forward" with women--that he was never shy and retiring around them. This wouldn't excuse any abuse of power on his part, but it would go at least some way to explaining a general attitude toward male/female affection. Bluntly put, "traditional" Latin men were encouraged to be "Romeos." I've seen this a lot in Italy and in my own extended (Italian) family.
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