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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbest View Post
    Lang next to Ashkenazy and Brofman? Lets get real, Lang has been promoted, be for real, I call it propaganda=ized, like wang is propagandized.
    Why fools ourselves here, besides not only is Bartok's 3nda bonified dud, its easy to perform, Which is why Lang picked the 3rd and not the 1st, 2nd.


    Lang Bartok piano concerto # 2 in 2013 you must have missed it.
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    Several posts have been removed or edited due to inappropriate content. Others have been edited or removed because they quoted those deleted/edited posts.

    Unfortunately, the discussion has become rather more than simply a critique or certain musicians. Hopefully, the thread can focus simply on member's opinions of the particular musicians' abilities.

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    I love Lang Lang and think he's a very thematic player!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Burgess View Post


    Lang Bartok piano concerto # 2 in 2013 you must have missed it.
    Is it any good? I thought Rattle was a very fine accompanist in the Bartók Concertos he did on EMI with Peter Donohoe.

    Worryingly, I went through my multitude of Bartók Concertos in my collection, not a single Asian in there, and females only in the Third. Wassss wrong with me????

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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    Is it any good? I thought Rattle was a very fine accompanist in the Bartók Concertos he did on EMI with Peter Donohoe.

    Worryingly, I went through my multitude of Bartók Concertos in my collection, not a single Asian in there, and females only in the Third. Wassss wrong with me????
    Ordered it will report back after hearing it. Posted it because someone said Lang never did concerto # 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbest View Post
    Lang next to Ashkenazy and Brofman? Lets get real, Lang has been promoted, be for real, I call it propaganda=ized, like wang is propagandized.
    Why fools ourselves here, besides not only is Bartok's 3nda bonified dud, its easy to perform, Which is why Lang picked the 3rd and not the 1st, 2nd.
    Funny, if you can read, Lang is performing the Bartok 2nd with Rattle. i would appreciated less implied racism btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Well, there's always "Ignore"...but now other people have taken to quoting him in their posts. I wish they'd stop that.
    Yes, funny how outrage gives the offender more exposure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    Is it any good? I thought Rattle was a very fine accompanist in the Bartók Concertos he did on EMI with Peter Donohoe.

    Worryingly, I went through my multitude of Bartók Concertos in my collection, not a single Asian in there, and females only in the Third. Wassss wrong with me????
    Well, there aren't that many dozens of recordings of Bartok's piano concertos.

    I can't say I'm updated as regards all the new stuff. But names like for instance Ogawa and Paik also perform Bartok, I don't know of them recording it however. And no doubt there are many more Asian pianists performing him.

    Regarding females, Farnadi did a fine recording of piano concertos nos. 2+3 with Scherchen.

    Annie Fischer, Uchida, Monique Haas, Argerich, Nikolyeva, Grimaud and Bernatova also did the 3rd, as did Ditta Bartok (whose very late recording is rather lifeless, however).

    The rather unknown Balognova did the 1st for Supraphon.

    I'm pretty sure there are more.

    Yudina, Timofeeva and Grinberg also recorded Bartok, albeit not concertos, in the old Melodiya days.
    Loriod played at least nos. 1+2, Licad plays at least no.1, Wang plays 1+2, etc.
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    I have five of those female Thirds, btw!

    I will confess to some bias with these Bartók pieces, I do prefer Hungarians! But to suggest people of a single race (sic!) i.e. Asians, can't fathom it is worth calling out for ridicule..

    Have you guys sold Greenland yet?

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    There are other countries besides the USA that are very interested in Greenland. Could be a bidding war, and Denmark would make a fortune. My view is that Denmark should hold on to what they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    There are other countries besides the USA that are very interested in Greenland. Could be a bidding war, and Denmark would make a fortune. My view is that Denmark should hold on to what they have.
    I think, as an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, the Greenlanders themselves should have the final say? Pretty insulting to even think it is for sale.

    Mind you, perhaps someone else should make the decision other than the locals? They voted to leave the (then) EEC, back in 1982. Surely no country could be so thick, ill-informed and bigoted to ever consider acting in such a suicidal manner....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    I think, as an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, the Greenlanders themselves should have the final say? Pretty insulting to even think it is for sale.
    I don't see a problem. We just offer each family $250,000 tax-free, a complementary year's Amazon Prime membership, and free MAGA hats for all.


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    BTW John Adams has written a new piano concerto dedicated to Yuja Wang. It’s titled, “Why must the devil have all the good tunes?” She premiered it earlier this month with the LA Phil, Dudamel conducting. It’s on YouTube in its entirety.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    BTW John Adams has written a new piano concerto dedicated to Yuja Wang. It’s titled, “Why must the devil have all the good tunes?” She premiered it earlier this month with the LA Phil, Dudamel conducting. It’s on YouTube in its entirety.

    Good title. It was enough to make me put on the Deutscher Concerto.

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    I like both. I can't see all the antics on my recordings.
    I don't live in the past,
    there's no future in it.

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