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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Good title. It was enough to make me put on the Deutscher Concerto.
    The first movement might be titled, "Variations on Peter Gunn."


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    I just listened to the Adams concerto and feel as though I had been beaten over the head by a Steinway for 29 minutes. Well ... it's not [quite] that bad and I can see what many like it, but it feels as though it is constantly 'in your face'. I now feel in the need of something a bit more relaxing ... like MacMillan's 2nd concerto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becca View Post
    I just listened to the Adams concerto and feel as though I had been beaten over the head by a Steinway for 29 minutes...
    I think Adams wanted to make sure the pianist earned her performance fee!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Lang Lang recorded K 491, it’s one of the more audacious performances I’ve heard, I’m not saying you’ll enjoy it, especially if you come with a preexisting idea of how the music should go. I just say that it has proved to be for me challenging and rewarding to get to know.
    Lang Lang worked with Harnoncourt and the Vienna Philharmonic in 2014. If it was good enough for Harnoncourt it's good enough for me: (not that I'm a fan of Mozart these days).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8NIUyYbowg

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    BTW John Adams has written a new piano concerto dedicated to Yuja Wang. It’s titled, “Why must the devil have all the good tunes?” She premiered it earlier this month with the LA Phil, Dudamel conducting. It’s on YouTube in its entirety.

    5 minutes worth of ideas spread over 25 in my view.
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    5 minutes worth of ideas spread over 25 in my view.
    Well, John Adams is 72. Could be his muse is fading a bit.


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    I just listened to it. Not Adams at his most inspired, and he has slowed down a bit in recent years (as is expected from a composer his age), but Absolute Jest and City Noir show that he still has things to say.
    Last edited by Portamento; Aug-26-2019 at 05:56.

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    Wang is here playing Prokofiev's Toccata as an encore last year. It is lacking the frenetic, demonic element we often associate with that work and has a rather bland sound world:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVpnr8dI_50

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    BTW John Adams has written a new piano concerto dedicated to Yuja Wang. It’s titled, “Why must the devil have all the good tunes?” She premiered it earlier this month with the LA Phil, Dudamel conducting. It’s on YouTube in its entirety.

    Looks like the devil kept the good tunes anyway!

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    Compare Wang with this from Argerich - it's actually GOING SOMEWHERE dark and ominous:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AhHBu_A_U

    But this is even better - and more surprising!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGlXRW7GLsY
    Last edited by Christabel; Aug-26-2019 at 08:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christabel View Post
    Compare Wang with this from Argerich - it's actually GOING SOMEWHERE dark and ominous:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AhHBu_A_U

    But this is even better - and more surprising!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGlXRW7GLsY
    I think to compare anyone to Horowitz in this piece is a loser! Why on earth when we have brilliant young artists must there be a brigade who tries to knock them down? Come on, this silly nit-picking as to who is the best is downright foolish. Why not just enjoy them all? I do!

    BTW during his lifetime there was a very vociferous anti-Horowitz hate brigade too. Probably comparable to the Lang Lang hate brigade of today. Oh and Eileen Joyce was hated too for the dresses she wore - cf Yuja. Those sour grapes people who hate success and must try to knock it down re around in every generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christabel View Post
    Compare Wang with this from Argerich - it's actually GOING SOMEWHERE dark and ominous:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AhHBu_A_U

    But this is even better - and more surprising!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGlXRW7GLsY
    Neither Argerich nor Horowitz turn it into music, for that you need Josef Lhevinne

    Last edited by Mandryka; Aug-26-2019 at 10:02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Neither Argerich nor Horowitz turn it into music, for that you need Josef Lhevinne

    Interesting as we were talking about Prokofiev not Schumann!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Neither Argerich nor Horowitz turn it into music, for that you need Josef Lhevinne

    Yes, but the wonderful Lhevinne performance is the Schumann rather than Prokofiev Toccata.

    Horowitz does seem to get a bit manic and carried away. I was always amazed by his explosive dynamics — I think it characterized his playing during his career — though I believe Wang and Argerich are way up there too with their explosive technical accuracy. I’m deeply impressed how anyone can do that:



    I think all the Toccatas are the product of too much nerves, caffeine or cocaine.
    Last edited by Larkenfield; Aug-26-2019 at 11:14.
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