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Thread: The Who vs The Kinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    Alas! As may have become clear in some of my previous posts, I am too limited in imagination to recognize the inherent concepts of the vast majority of "concept" albums. If most such albums were played to/for me without title but with a gun to my head and orders to identify and articulate the concept therein, I would be dead many times over. So the attempt of a group to persuade me of the reality of an album's concept is seed scattered upon barren ground. Tommy would be an obvious exception.
    I think it would be difficult to miss the concept of The Kinks' Preservation albums, not that I'd recommend bothering with them to start with. The title track (which, bizarrely, was cut from the album but released as a single) even starts with "once upon a time" and proceeds to tell an overview of the albums' story, characters and themes. There's also a fine analysis of those elements here: https://altrockchick.com/2013/06/05/...-acts-1-and-2/ Those albums are arguably closer to musical theater than rock/pop.
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    The Kinks sounds like a Beatles clone, and since I am not the biggest Beatles fan, I am not a fan of its clones either. So I prefer The Who.

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    Always something a bit precious about the Kinks, and nothing with the musicality of Tommy or Who’s Next, which has some of the most lyrical writing of any band of the period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    The Kinks sounds like a Beatles clone...
    I think you've got them confused with ELO or Badfinger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwv 1080 View Post
    Always something a bit precious about the Kinks, and nothing with the musicality of Tommy or Who’s Next, which has some of the most lyrical writing of any band of the period.
    I've heard this before and I'm never quite sure what it means. Perhaps in their more wistful, nostalgic music I can hear it (but no more so than The Beatles at their most whimsical), but The Kinks were just as prone to being hard-edged, satirical, even pessimistic (perhaps that's the flip-side of the coin to lamenting some lost, idealized past). Perhaps they didn't do this with the musical fury of The Who at their most rowdy, but who at that time did?

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    I'm declining to vote - I have two albums by The Who (Who's Next and Tommy) and nothing by the Kinks. I know their most popular songs that may still get radio play, and that is about it.

    The Who just hasn't connected for me. I like some of their stuff, don't really hate anything - they don't elicit strong reactions either way. Lately I have delved deeply into 60s and 70s rock - these two bands have yet to generate any real interest from me, the way that CCR, the Beatles, the Stones, VU, and the Beach Boys have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    Their biggest hit might have been "Lola".
    And "Waterloo Station" is as beautiful as any pop song I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    Their biggest hit might have been "Lola".
    that has been posted on the thread "song of the day" TYVM

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    The Kinks music by far. But i feel they are let down by their musicianship which is far lower than the Who's.
    "Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart

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    The Who for me, not even close.
    Who's Next, Tommy, Quadrophenia. By the Numbers
    Who Are You
    Classic albums and songs
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    The Who by a country mile.

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    The Kinks for me although I have seen both live and each have their merits. In fact, both are very strong. But I never liked the speculation around Townshend or him especially as a character. RD is not exactly easy either but he is more in line with the English eccentric. And "You Really Got Me" is an early punk record many years ahead of punk actual. Favourite songs by each - probably Lola, Waterloo Sunset and Days and then I Can See For Miles, Baba O'Riley and You Better You Bet but there are a lot, lot, more.

    Incidentally, while I do get the either/or, is there just a hint in this poll of how "sensitive" or "hard" are you? It's quite interesting to see how many folk have gone hugely in one direction or the other. I have come down on the side of sensitive/creative but not by light years, as is my way. My mates were huge Who fans. There was commonality - and a fair part of me also comes from that early "laddish" angle.
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    If I admit my favorite Kinks song is "Come Dancing" I'll probably be run off the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    If I admit my favorite Kinks song is "Come Dancing" I'll probably be run off the site.
    This is funny in a nice way.

    I love Come Dancing. I love dancing songs because they remind me of my parents when my mother was most happy. Not so sure about my Dad. He was forced into it. Come Dancing came late. '78? I bought it. The ultimate "my parents being happy dancing" song is Nanci Griffith's "Love at the Five and Dime" not that they would have got that I saw them in it. For a long time in my head they were also the couple in "When The Wind Blows" but now I feel that I am and many of us are. If this isn't nuclear winter, what is?

    I hardly dare mention "musicals" in this context. Generally I avoided them for having in their day, erm, connotations but I had a singular mate - unusual in his rigid normality : a "Foggy" from "Last of the Summer Wine" for our UK viewers but at only 23. Extremely right wing when I wasn't and similarly one rung above the South London poverty class. Straight as a die. I use that word without any sexual reference for I only always did great friendships. Michael Foot and Enoch also had an unholy alliance.

    He was for amateur football, obsessively, the person who told me not to worry about getting my head kicked in when we went to Millwall, and quirkily for musicals. If we met up for a few beers I almost felt obliged to say yes. But the other part of the bargain was that mainly I chose which or else I would winge. So we got to "Tommy" and actually I really liked it. The stage version. But it wasn't the music. It was the fact that they had screens which artistically threw the lyrics across them. I watched those words all night. It was a great precursor to watching words on a screen every night in the absence of anything else.
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    ^^^ I also like "Better Days," from the prior album.

    I heard the Kinks live once, in New York, after "State of Confusion came out. I probably have permanent hearing loss from that concert. Cindy Lauper opened. She was almost booed off the stage.

    My book almost appeared in a Cindy Lauper video. I was walking down fifth avenue and strange music was playing and they were filming people dancing on the steps of the Metropolitan museum. Some production assistant saw me and asked to borrow the book I was carrying, they had the idea of the singer and her crew dancing past someone reading a book, who would join in. The song was "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," of course. It was her first record and no one had heard of her then. The scene didn't take it into the video.
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