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    25 is a short list so many, many composers are left out. I am exploring some of the 25 on YT. The premiere performance of the Kurtag opera is up there. And I'm checking out the Arditti's recording of Harvey's quartet.
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    Have been listening to Olga Neuwirth's Lost Highway Suite - it brought to mind Pink Floyd's On the Run off of 'The Dark Side Of The Moon'.

    I have heard Abrahamsen's Let Me Tell You (live) and Luther Adam's 'Become Ocean'.

    I haven't enjoyed any of these pieces thus far.
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    I think it is a good list as far as such things go. Like others some of my favourite works from the period are not there.

    I know and like many of the composers chosen and quite a few of the works. I'm listening to Dusapin's Passion and liking it a lot (his music is so approachable!). I also have a lot of time for Harvey, Saariaho and Kurtag (although I didn't know the works selected). And I am also pleased to see Linda Catlin Smith in the list. There are also some composers who I don't greatly like (Adams, MacMillan).

    I know and like quite a few of the selections including Birtwistle's Minotaur (wonderful work!), Benjamin's Written on Skin (ditto!), Abrahamsen's Let Me Tell You (very approachable and satisfying), Ades' The Tempest (which I quite like), Olga Neuwirth's Lost Highway and Rebecca Saunders' Skin. I note that Barbara Hannigan is the star of the works place first and second!

    The links to the music are meaning that I may find others that interest me.

    So, for me, I'll forgive the missing pieces (those I would have liked to see in the list) for the riches that are in it.
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    I like lists like this one. Tom Service from the Guardian has had great articles on contemporary composers before so I like to believe in him I have heard at least 8 of the 25 works and now have more music to explore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portamento View Post
    Definitely pretty Anglo-centric. I like the inclusion of Linda Catlin Smith and Cassandra Miller, though!
    An interesting and good article, but:
    though it's predictable and overall quite OK for an English newspaper, only about 8 of those 25 works are not coming from Anglo-American composers.

    However I don't follow the most contemporary scene closely enough to give a really qualified critique, since my listening habits tends to be more sporadic for post-2000 works. Trying to catch up with the decades before 2000 represents plenty of work in itself. But there are many more interesting Austro-German, French, Spanish and Scandinavian composers, for example.

    Checked, works after 1999 I have are by:

    - Ablinger
    - Abrahamsen
    - Adamek
    - Ades
    - Aho
    - J.Anderson
    - Aperghis
    - Artyomov
    - Azevedo
    - Balada
    - Beamish
    - B.Belet
    - G.Benjamin
    - Birtwistle
    - L.A.Bisgaard
    - Borissova-Ollas
    - Boulez

    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joen_cph View Post
    An interesting and good article, but:
    though it's predictable and overall quite OK for an English newspaper, only about 8 of those 25 works are not coming from Anglo-American composers.

    However I don't follow the most contemporary scene closely enough to give a really qualified critique, since my listening habits tends to be more sporadic for post-2000 works. Trying to catch up with the decades before 2000 represents plenty of work in itself. But there are many more interesting Austro-German, French, Spanish and Scandinavian composers, for example.

    Checked, works after 1999 I have are by:

    - Ablinger
    - Abrahamsen
    - Adamek
    - Ades
    - Aho
    - J.Anderson
    - Aperghis
    - Artyomov
    - Azevedo
    - Balada
    - Beamish
    - B.Belet
    - G.Benjamin
    - Birtwistle
    - L.A.Bisgaard
    - Borissova-Ollas
    - Boulez

    etc.
    To that list could be added some big Danish names - although they are certainly not young composers and they were active way before the millenium:
    Per Nørgård, Karl Aage Rasmussen, Bent Sørensen and Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen. (Gudmundsen-Holmgren died in 2016, so he can't contribute more).

    I'm not a fan of those composers - just wanted to mention them now that Hans Abrahamsen all of a sudden over-shadows them all...
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    I don't listen to much contemporary classical music, so the only piece written after 2000 that I can say I truly love is Gavin Bryars' concerto for piano, choir and orchestra "Solway Canal" premiered 2011 - ca. 30 minutes:
    I like other genres in contemporary music - like post metal and post rock and some indie.

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    the list obviously promotes UK music.
    also, 50/50 male/female is also taken in account.
    after that, not so much is left for other composers. it seems that there are no composers outside of western/north hemisphere.
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    I would love to see lists like this from other places. Norway f.ex.! I'm really not up to date here at home...I feel the UK cares about contemporary music more than other places. Anyway the list is a tiny part of it all
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    The only piece I have heard anything of is the awful Birtwistle Minotaur piece which I turned off pretty quickly as I found it unpleasant to listen to. If everything else is of the same sort of colour but I can’t see it attracting a major audience

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    The only piece I have heard anything of is the awful Birtwistle Minotaur piece which I turned off pretty quickly as I found it unpleasant to listen to. If everything else is of the same sort of colour but I can’t see it attracting a major audience
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    I would have chosen The Dharma at Big Sur (2003) over City Noir to represent John Adams on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterFromLA View Post
    I would have chosen The Dharma at Big Sur (2003) over City Noir to represent John Adams on this list.
    I totally agree with that!


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    I plan a game on favourite 21st century works starting October.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    The only piece I have heard anything of is the awful Birtwistle Minotaur piece which I turned off pretty quickly as I found it unpleasant to listen to. If everything else is of the same sort of colour but I can’t see it attracting a major audience
    Actually, there is a lot of variety in the list, as you would expect from a list made by a number of very different critics. It has links so you could have listened to all if you had wanted to so it is presumably a lack of interest (perhaps the result of experience) that stops you discovering if the other works are the "same sort of colour". As for attracting "a major audience", we have pop music for that these days. These are different times and the tradition has adapted. You don't need to go with it. If you care about the contemporary there is pop music. If not, there is the classical music of the past.

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