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UFOs: Threat or Menace?

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For the first time, the Navy has said that the UFO's observed in recent encounters are likely real. Navy spokesman Josepth Gradisher says that "the 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena' terminology is used because it provides the basic descriptor for the sightings/observations of unauthorized/unidentified aircraft/objects that have been observed entering/operating in the airspace of various military-controlled training ranges." This relates specifically to three encounters, the first in 2004 and the other two in 2015.

Luis Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), speaks of the well-known November 14, 2004 encounter off the San Diego coast: "What the pilots encountered that day was able to perform in ways that defied all logic and our current understanding of aerodynamics. Furthermore, beyond what the pilots saw with their own trained eye, the technological feat they encountered was further verified by the impressive Aegis SPY-1 radar, America's premier radar system at the time, and even gun camera footage and sonar systems from submarines accompanying the carrier." This encounter, part of the multi-day Nimitz incident, is covered in Wiki.

I'm curious if anybody here has any ideas about this, about UFOs generally, has seen a UFO, or even (gasp) been abducted! Anyway, a happy Klaatu Barada Nikto to all!
 
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Is it falling faster than just the pull of the Earth's gravity?

Intelligent aliens must know that photos and videos aren't reliable evidence (since the 1960s), but they would appear so hideous to us humans that they've decided that showing themselves would be bad, for both sides.
 
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There are over 3000 planets discovered, many more moons, and many more undiscovered that orbit the stars in the sky. The likelihood that there is no intelligent life is next to zero. The fact we are here shows its possibility. If there was only a 1/10000 chance a planet/moon is hospitable to life, and you take 10000 instances, the expected value is 1. When you take tens of thousands of instances, it becomes more likely there is life. How intelligent? Kind of relative. I find my cat pretty intelligent, enough to call it intelligent life.

But UFO's is a different matter. For intelligent life to come here, make itself seen and not cause devastation to our race, they must be pretty advanced and have a level of benevolence, which doesn't fit Darwin's model, unless they are cultivating us like bacteria to be consumed somehow.
 
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The chance for intelligent life is impossible to calculate. We have, afterall, only one example to go off*. However books like "Rare Earth" and "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" describe the nearly-unbelievable series of events and coincidences that led to our being here, and the chance of those or similar events occurring elsewhere are slim-to-none. Because we see life everywhere around us on Earth we think it must be ubiquitous everywhere, but that's simply not the case. Life is very much the exception rather than the rule.

And intelligent life is very much the exception even here on Earth where life is abundant.

UFOs? They belong in the same category as ghosts and angels.



* - The Drake Equation is purely speculative
 
#207 ·
Because we see life everywhere around us on Earth we think it must be ubiquitous everywhere, but that's simply not the case. Life is very much the exception rather than the rule..
Not really.

But of course it depends on your definition of life.

Biological blobs like us may not be as plentiful as other forms.
 
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The OTHER thing these pseudo-science Star Trek-inspired articles never mention is distance. If there are any inhabited planets in the Milky Way, they'd be too far away for us to ever communicate with them, let alone visit.

The speed of light is a hard limit to how far we can reach out.
 
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Yet the potentials rather than the hindrances, of life elsewhere, seem to grow exponentially, rather than diminish, these days, according to the opinions of most scientists in the field. But I've seen the estimation that if no, more certain, indications are found within say 3 decades, it's probably going to be very difficult or impossible to identify life elsewhere.
 
#227 ·
Some sceptics argue on why there is no MORE ufo cases, landings and sightings in general...They didnt think that ''maybe'' the aliens are just very far away even with supreme technology and can only appear in like one decade or century like we can go to moon, like in this stage its almost undoable again...:rolleyes:
 
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I have a new keyboard its a bit tricky to type lol But I was pretty clear...Aliens ''maybe'' dont have the means to travel to earth in those numbers and time intervals that will prove to sceptics that they ''exist''...Because of that, the real ''true cases'' are few and far between.
 
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