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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Why all the defensiveness. I am simply wondering in view of you continually setting your views out what practical experience you have of the opera house. How is this ignorant sniping?
    Ignorant sniping is what you do. You've contributed nothing of value to this thread. As several of us have tried to explain to you, your insistence that anyone who sets forth an opinion must satisfy your need to assess their "credentials" is immature, obnoxious, and simply idiotic. Now you want to know if I can "back up" my "continual" statements by "proving" to you my "qualifications" to speak.

    I will not play your juvenile game of "And who are YOU to claim to know anything?" Check out my views, research my claims, accept them, reject them - I don't give a tinker's damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Ignorant sniping is what you do. You've contributed nothing of value to this thread. As several of us have tried to explain to you, your insistence that anyone who sets forth an opinion must satisfy your need to assess their "credentials" is immature, obnoxious, and simply idiotic. Now you want to know if I can "back up" my "continual" statements by "proving" to you my "qualifications" to speak.

    I will not play your juvenile game of "And who are YOU to claim to know anything?" Check out my views, research my claims, accept them, reject them - I don't give a tinker's damn.
    Yes I have checked out your views which is why I (politely) raise questions. But never mind. I don't want to get into name calling. It is not an argument. Agree to differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    'We are a group of musicians who are very passionate about restoring opera to its past glory.'
    Maybe they should sell MOGA hats on their site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    Maybe they should sell MOGA hats on their site?
    More like MAKE OPERA CHESTY AGAIN!

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    A NOTED CRITIC'S VIEW

    This Is Opera's presentations of Nezet-Seguin's coaching of singers were recently brought to the attention of veteran opera critic Conrad L. Osborne, whose comments can be read on the latest installment of his blog, "Osborne on Opera: A Critical Blog." Much of what Osborne says will be hard to follow if you don't have access to the scores being described, but enough is comprehensible to make clear that he agrees with both the reservations generally expressed about TIO's amateurish presentation and the essential soundness of their arguments about singing and opera.

    http://conradlosborne.com/2019/10/11...que-kerfuffle/

    Osborne notes that TIO are "open to charges of cherry-picking,"and that "fearless pronouncements look a lot less fearless when they’re anonymous." But he goes on to illustrate his belief that "The inconvenient thing, though, is that slapdash and rash though they sometimes are, 'This Is Opera’s' arguments are, broadly speaking, correct." Of Nezet-Seguin, Osborne says "N-S is an extremely accomplished musician. He seems to be a sincere believer in tireless work on craft, on detail, as the route to freedom with performing material. He has valid insights on musical interpretation, a few of which I’ll take note of as we go along. He is clearly a dedicated artist, devoted to the operatic mission. He is also friendly and respectful with his young charges, and not on a power trip with them. All this, though, does not make him a keen analyst of singing technique, or, as suggested above, of the relationship between aesthetic preferences and vocal function. And it is in those capacities that our interest lies here."

    For those with the patience to slog through a certain amount of detail, the article may be worth a read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    A NOTED CRITIC'S VIEW

    This Is Opera's presentations of Nezet-Seguin's coaching of singers were recently brought to the attention of veteran opera critic Conrad L. Osborne, whose comments can be read on the latest installment of his blog, "Osborne on Opera: A Critical Blog." Much of what Osborne says will be hard to follow if you don't have access to the scores being described, but enough is comprehensible to make clear that he agrees with both the reservations generally expressed about TIO's amateurish presentation and the essential soundness of their arguments about singing and opera.

    http://conradlosborne.com/2019/10/11...que-kerfuffle/

    Osborne notes that TIO are "open to charges of cherry-picking,"and that "fearless pronouncements look a lot less fearless when they’re anonymous." But he goes on to illustrate his belief that "The inconvenient thing, though, is that slapdash and rash though they sometimes are, 'This Is Opera’s' arguments are, broadly speaking, correct." Of Nezet-Seguin, Osborne says "N-S is an extremely accomplished musician. He seems to be a sincere believer in tireless work on craft, on detail, as the route to freedom with performing material. He has valid insights on musical interpretation, a few of which I’ll take note of as we go along. He is clearly a dedicated artist, devoted to the operatic mission. He is also friendly and respectful with his young charges, and not on a power trip with them. All this, though, does not make him a keen analyst of singing technique, or, as suggested above, of the relationship between aesthetic preferences and vocal function. And it is in those capacities that our interest lies here."

    For those with the patience to slog through a certain amount of detail, the article may be worth a read.
    Thank you. A fascinating article. I've subscribed to his blog too.
    "It's not enough to have a beautiful voice." Maria Callas

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    From another article on his site, called "Preamble":
    With respect to singing, the crux of the matter is easily, if baldly, stated: there is a worldwide dearth of voices of sufficient calibre and coloristic span to enable even basically satisfactory renderings of many of the greatest classical works, most obviously those of Verdi and Wagner, but extending to most of what still makes up the standard repertory.... We have reached the point whereat some of the heavier operas not only cannot be well cast by any single company, but could not be so by drawing on the resources of all companies.

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