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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    And of course today's pop tunes are credit as many as 20 songwriters. How do you expect a melody to come from that. I do like the fact that Ariana Grandes "7 Rings" has about 20 songwriters, but Rodgers and Hammerstein get 90% of the royalties. (If you want to know why, you can listen to the song.
    the idea that with two writers you had a good song and adding eighteen more you had the crap that Ariana Grande is singing is quite hilarious
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    Though I don't like that song myself (the bland production and lack of any memorable vocal hook/melody kills it), I do think there's something rather creative about how they took My Favorite Things and turned it into a cynical ode to gross consumerism:

    "Whoever said money can't solve your problems
    Must not have had enough money to solve 'em"

    Is actually a pretty damn funny lyric.
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    No melody is not my complaint about modern pop. I watch a certain late night tv show where new groups are featured all the time and thing I've noticed is almost a total lack of middle eights and the bridges that go with them. All we get are verse and chorus, repeat that three or four times and your done. It's like a world too busy for a songwriter to write a complete song, and listeners who don't have time to hear one either. My comp prof used to say that a good song should be like a composition without the development of material, but you should still endeavor as a songwriter to "go someplace and then come back."

    As others have pointed out, good melody still exists outside the parameters of the article. Pasek and Paul are just warming up in my opinion. And my old standby, Neil Finn, although not "modern" is still, unlike Billy Joel, cranking out good melodies and good middle eights.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9q7Jr0w5MLk


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fq7DMbsVSk
    "He who makes songs without feeling spoils both his words and his music. " ~ Guillaume de Machaut

    "Music that is born complex is not inherently better or worse than music that is born simple." ~ Aaron Copland.

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