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    Above: British guitarist Peter Frampton expresses his viewpoint on the subject -

    On this second video jump to the 3:45 mark to see his initial warning which is disregarded - he then walks over - grabs the phone and flings it across the stage - which should be SOP for all performers...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwTigVjFawU

    Peter Frampton is best known for the 1976 release "Frampton Comes Alive". It was the best-selling album of 1976, selling over 8 million copies in the US (and at least two copies here in Canada) and becoming one of the best-selling live albums to date, with estimated sales of 11 million worldwide.

    I was the one who bought the two copies sold in Canada - one album (which I still have) and one cassette (which I no longer have as it was thrown out the window of my car by someone who claimed to love me more than life itself and who warned me - repeatedly - not to play it "one more time, eh?" - advice which I rather foolishly disregarded probably out of pure spite as honestly it wasn't really worth hearing once much less three times in a row - and who then popped it out of the deck and flung it out of the window where it landed somewhere upon the Trans Canada Highway between Montreal and Ottawa... It may still be there to this day.. If you find it - keep it, eh? - Despite the passing of over four decades - it's still "too soon"...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabulin View Post
    I cannot imagine an audience member using a phone during a classical concert. Where I come from, people on the neighbouring seats would just bully the insolence out of this son of Ham.
    By me some people think it is acceptable to play games or read email on their phone during concerts as long as the sound is off. I don't like to be near it. I hate to see a lighted screen next to me in a dark room and I keep tensing for the phone to make a sound. Plus I'm a control freak who would like to control other people's behavior if I think it's idiotic. I can't understand wanting to bury your eyes in a phone at a live concert.

    Another place this is done a lot is tennis matches. The more elite the event, the more it happens. Watch a world class tennis match on TV between "Rafa" and "Joker" and see how many people in the audience are peering into their phones, bored, and missing great shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Well maybe. I’m betting by far most of them are never looked at again (talking about those where the figures are teeny-tiny as opposed to front row seats).
    I can't speak for what people are thinking, but for me it wouldn't be the tiny figures on stage, it would be the view from the seat that would be memorable, the sense of being there. Of course, that has nothing in common with disrupting a classical concert by pulling out a cell phone and filming from the front row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    By me some people think it is acceptable to play games or read email on their phone during concerts as long as the sound is off. I don't like to be near it. I hate to see a lighted screen next to me in a dark room and I keep tensing for the phone to make a sound. Plus I'm a control freak who would like to control other people's behavior if I think it's idiotic. I can't understand wanting to bury your eyes in a phone at a live concert.

    Another place this is done a lot is tennis matches. The more elite the event, the more it happens. Watch a world class tennis match on TV between "Rafa" and "Joker" and see how many people in the audience are peering into their phones, bored, and missing great shots.
    I've heard that in America people also behave loud in cinemas instead of... you know, watching what is being projected. I don't think I would visit one there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Ever been to a big pop concert in a stadium and see all those flashes coming from the nosebleed seats? Like one day the person is going to treasure the video of these teeny-tiny figures on a tiny stage with lousy sound. And what do these people think a flash from a smartphone from 1/4 mile away is going to do?
    I brought my daughter to see Eric Clapton as a birthday gift, and up in the nosebleed but still very expensive seats, there were TV monitors. Some people were not only looking at the TV monitors rather than the stage, they were recording the monitor with their smartphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabulin View Post
    I've heard that in America people also behave loud in cinemas instead of... you know, watching what is being projected. I don't think I would visit one there...
    That hasn't been my experience, but I don't attend many movies where a lot of young people are present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbhaub View Post
    I've played dozens of concerts in China and they don't put up with this behavior at all. In some venues they actually post people in catwalks above the proscenium with laser pointers. They watch the audience and if they see someone with a cell phone out they shine the laser light right onto their faces. As a performer it's kind of funny to watch as people get zapped.

    In Beijing at the big hall, the audience must pass through metal detectors and surrender all electronics. They put your phone in a marked bag and give you a tag to recover it when you leave. They are very efficient and the process moves quickly.
    Sounds awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbhaub View Post
    I've played dozens of concerts in China and they don't put up with this behavior at all. In some venues they actually post people in catwalks above the proscenium with laser pointers. They watch the audience and if they see someone with a cell phone out they shine the laser light right onto their faces. As a performer it's kind of funny to watch as people get zapped.

    In Beijing at the big hall, the audience must pass through metal detectors and surrender all electronics. They put your phone in a marked bag and give you a tag to recover it when you leave. They are very efficient and the process moves quickly.
    ...and of course they scan all the phones for images of Whinnie the Pooh, and if found the owner is whisked away for "re-education," perhaps never to be heard from again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mollie John View Post


    Above: British guitarist Peter Frampton expresses his viewpoint on the subject -

    On this second video jump to the 3:45 mark to see his initial warning which is disregarded - he then walks over - grabs the phone and flings it across the stage - which should be SOP for all performers...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwTigVjFawU

    Peter Frampton is best known for the 1976 release "Frampton Comes Alive". It was the best-selling album of 1976, selling over 8 million copies in the US (and at least two copies here in Canada) and becoming one of the best-selling live albums to date, with estimated sales of 11 million worldwide.

    I was the one who bought the two copies sold in Canada - one album (which I still have) and one cassette...
    But I have a third copy (the LP) bought in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabulin View Post
    I've heard that in America people also behave loud in cinemas instead of... you know, watching what is being projected. I don't think I would visit one there...
    I don't know where you heard that, but it's not true. Americans hate noisemakers in the movie theater as much as anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I don't know where you heard that, but it's not true. Americans hate noisemakers in the movie theater as much as anyone else.

    There are tons of videos. Can't bother to find the most egregious ones. I've also had discussions on this topic on other fora. Some Americans aven praised this behaviour and claimed that it's better than "dead silence" of European audiences. And that going to the cinema is attending a social event, like a rock concert. Some theorized that a bunch of dummies vocalizing like shocked chimpanzees is the essence of cinema. I've even heard tales of people "talking to the screens"---for example "giving advice to characters"---in a... downtown New York theatre, if my memory serves me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabulin View Post

    There are tons of videos. Can't bother to find the most egregious ones. I've also had discussions on this topic on other fora. Some Americans aven praised this behaviour and claimed that it's better than "dead silence" of European audiences. And that going to the cinema is attending a social event, like a rock concert. Some theorized that a bunch of dummies vocalizing like shocked chimpanzees is the essence of cinema. I've even heard tales of people "talking to the screens"---for example "giving advice to characters"---in a... downtown New York theatre, if my memory serves me.
    Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I can tell you from a lifetime of personal experience that this is not a common thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I can tell you from a lifetime of personal experience that this is not a common thing.
    You are on the internet also.
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    FFF the smartphones! Instruments which make us slowly but steady their slaves. I see people crossing the street, without look right and left for coming cars, other who are drinking a coffee in a local, without speaking, with their eyes and whole attention to their smartphones. A plague of our modern civilization, a decrease for human intellectuality. You ask someone a simple question and immediately he turns to his cellphone to search for the Wikipedia. In 20 years the school examinations will be with tablets and smartphones. The one with the best cellphone, wins a place in the university. Bravo Sophie!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I can tell you from a lifetime of personal experience that this is not a common thing.
    Post of the day .
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