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Thread: Anne-Sophie Mutter interrupts concert to admonish audience member who is filming her

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    Perhaps famous violinists should emulate Spike Jones, who always kept a loaded revolver on his podium.
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    There is of course the infamous case of Jon Vickers admonishing an audience member:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Dude, like it or not you're being marched out of the auditorium between two crusty, change-fearing old men in uniform for ignoring instructions not to take photographs of the performers during the concert, which will resume when your irksome presence has been removed.

    But take heart! The accumulated knowledge of the world, including instant access to business and news, will be there to entertain you while you're standing out in the rain phoning your loved ones to come and take you home. Hopefully, they haven't gone to a movie and decided not to be in touch at all times.

    Incidentally, your thirty-dollar ticket is nonrefundable, so get over it.
    30 dollar ticket!! how long has it been since you've gone to a concert with a world-famous musician?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    30 dollar ticket!! how long has it been since you've gone to a concert with a world-famous musician?
    For $30 you're allowed to stand on your head on the sidewalk and listen using a genuine transistor radio.



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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    They oughta do like the Grateful Dead, and have a hub that people can plug their phones into, and record the whole thing.
    Don't want to wander too far or long off topic, but the Grateful Dead (a famous American rock band with a large cult following that originated in the 1960s) well illustrates the profound difference between performance traditions in this area. The "Dead" famously allowed or even welcomed fans in the huge throngs they drew who wanted to tape the concerts. (Dedicated fans, known as "Deadheads", would often travel from city to city, following and taping the band.) Many proudly held their tape recorders high in the air for all to see. Of course, privately or semi-commercially circulated pirated recordings of live Grateful Dead concerts are legion and legendary, many insisting that their music cannot fully be appreciated without them.

    Now, the band itself routinely recorded its own concerts with full, professional equipment. At one point they were releasing an official recording of some older material, including a concert in Kansas City from 20 years earlier. They discovered that due to a failure in their fancy professional recording equipment, there was a drop out in the middle of the concert (I forget how long, maybe a minute or two). So they made a public appeal for a pirated recording of that particular concert so they could patch it in to the recording they were making. Sure enough, several fans obliged, the dead spot was patched, and the recording was released with the full concert.

    I don't suppose Annie-Sophie Mutter was thinking of this potential upside. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    30 dollar ticket!! how long has it been since you've gone to a concert with a world-famous musician?
    I paid thirty pounds each for a concert by the Tallis Scholars the other year - huge let down I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    30 dollar ticket!! how long has it been since you've gone to a concert with a world-famous musician?
    Since they started asking $31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Since they started asking $31.
    If you live near a college or university town, you can still see famous professional soloists for very reasonable (and subsidized) prices. Alas, large-scale productions of the Wagner operas you favor may not be as inexpensive. Major full-scale symphony orchestras can still be seen at a reasonable price if you can catch them away from New York or other major cities, though less often, and less cheaply, in recent years, ime.

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    Never sit next to a patron in the audience who has just had a bowl of chilli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eljr View Post
    Terrible reaction from her. She should be ashamed.
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    Crappy obsession? Well done?

    Dude, we have the accumulated knowledge of the world in our hand wherever we go. We are in touch with our loved ones at all times. We are aware of news and business instantly.

    Crappy obsession?

    Maybe, just maybe your perspective is that of a crusty old man who fears change so he lashes out at it.

    No one is taking my "crappy obsession" from me.

    Dude, like it or not time is change so get over it.
    I never suspected from your posts that you were among those who think that a classical music performance -that a lot of people have probably paid a lot to see, especially for a front row seat- is all about you and your stinking cellphone, but now I know. So in your mind, ‘time is change’ means you get to do whatever you want regardless of people around you. Well news flash, the world still works much the way it used to and you can count on your butt being kicked out or being made a fool of if you pull something similar to what that person did to Mutter, just like always.
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    I find it difficult to believe that eljr is not putting us on with his "defense" of cellphone/camera use among classical music concertgoers. Such behavior, as I'm almost sure eljr agrees, in that setting is....indefensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljr View Post
    Crappy obsession? Well done?

    Dude, we have the accumulated knowledge of the world in our hand wherever we go. We are in touch with our loved ones at all times. We are aware of news and business instantly.
    Don't you want separation from your loved ones sometimes? Phones are great in emergencies but they have made many people clingy, so that they want constant contact.

    They write to advice columnists complaining that the new person they are dating doesn't answer their texts immediately and they wonder if something is seriously wrong.

    They ignore the people in front of them in favor of the people in their phones. How do they ever make new friends? Ironic that these newfangled devices allow them to stick with the safe and familiar.

    Phones are great for information but a person who constantly consults google on his phone for every last little thing while supposedly socializing with others is annoying to be around.

    And you shouldn't take picture of everything just because your phone makes it easy. It may not be appropriate. The subject may not want their picture taken.

    That's my take on the portable phone. A marvelous invention that has brought out rather negative aspects of human nature that I never suspected were there.
    Last edited by Open Book; Oct-14-2019 at 04:40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    They oughta do like the Grateful Dead, and have a hub that people can plug their phones into, and record the whole thing.
    This is why the Dead became so big. They helped their audience to enjoy their music. Very much the opposite of what we saw here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    Don't you want separation from your loved ones sometimes? Phones are great in emergencies but they have made many people clingy, so that they want constant contact.

    They write to advice columnists complaining that the new person they are dating doesn't answer their texts immediately and they wonder if something is seriously wrong.

    They ignore the people in front of them in favor of the people in their phones. How do they ever make new friends? Ironic that these newfangled devices allow them to stick with the safe and familiar.

    Phones are great for information but a person who constantly consults google on his phone for every last little thing while supposedly socializing with others is annoying to be around.

    And you shouldn't take picture of everything just because your phone makes it easy. It may not be appropriate. The subject may not want their picture taken.

    That's my take on the portable phone. A marvelous invention that has brought out rather negative aspects of human nature that I never suspected were there.
    With all respect, bulls$#t.

    Shouldn't take pictures? Good grief.


    Advise columns existed way before the smartphone.

    Ignore the people around them? In all my years i have never had strangers in public engage me.

    Listen, this stuff is obvious. People who did not grow up with smart phones nor seat to them don't like them because they represent change. People do not like change. It's makes them uncomfortable. I could ex plain the psychology of this but why bother?

    I feel blessed to live in an age where I have a smart phone at my side. You dont. So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    For $30 you're allowed to stand on your head on the sidewalk and listen using a genuine transistor radio.

    When I was young everyone had one of these held to their ear. They ignored the people around them . The horror!
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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