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    Default Anne-Sophie Mutter interrupts concert to admonish audience member who is filming her

    https://www.thestrad.com/news/anne-s...KLpE6RF-uApiFo

    Good on her, I say.

    I cannot understand this infatuation with filming everything we do. People don't just experiece anything anymore. They have to film it. And what do they do with these mini videos? I'm willing to bet that after posting them on Facebook or whatever, they never look at them again, the performance completely forgotten as they never truly watched or listened to it in the first place.

    Some of the greatest performances I have ever witnessed still live on in my mind. I do not need visual evidence to remember them.
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    Is there a video recording of this?

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    Read this earlier today. Well done ASM. About time we countered this crappy obsession with using phones, etc in concerts. It's irritating beyong belief. I'm certainly not against phones / technology in daily life but what is the point of subpar recordings of a gig? Stupid. went to a gig at Glasgow O2 last week and half the show was hidden behind a deluge of mobiles. It p*ssed me off no end.
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    If it were possible to more than agree with something, I would more than agree with Tsaraslondon. Brava! to Ms Mutter. Mobile phones are a plague worse than frogs raining on Pharaoh.

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    Isn't there an announcement before concerts to turn cell phones off? Still, I'm sorry the lady in the front row had to be escorted out. Public humiliation isn't the kind of thing you get over quickly. But making an example out of someone keeps bad habits from spreading.
    Last edited by Manxfeeder; Oct-01-2019 at 20:27.

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    Phone-cameras are everywhere, right in someone's hand ready to use. I'm convinced they have been a factor in lowering the crime rate in the last couple of decades, because no one gets away with anything if they are caught on video.

    But cameras are used without thought and with a sense of privilege. Bad enough to disrupt a concert, but how about in an ordinary setting? Do we have the right of privacy, to not be photographed against our will, especially by a stranger? Do we own our own images? I'm wondering what the laws are on this.

    I don't think the person who took that concert video forgot about it, they probably bragged about it and showed it to a zillion friends before posting it online. It's a sport.
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    Thoroughly on Anne-Sophie's side here. If it says "no phones, no filming" duhhhhh! Don't!

    Videoed memories are one thing, intrusion, including on possible copyright issues is another. It's no wonder that we end up with insane laws like laws on things like upskirting, that wouldn't even enter most people's mind that we'd need. Sadly, it appears we do.

    I do wonder if whatever Ms Mutter was playing sounded a "good angry" afterwards?!
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    Ever been to a big pop concert in a stadium and see all those flashes coming from the nosebleed seats? Like one day the person is going to treasure the video of these teeny-tiny figures on a tiny stage with lousy sound. And what do these people think a flash from a smartphone from 1/4 mile away is going to do?
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    But how do you know if you actually experienced something if it has not been shared on social media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Ever been to a big pop concert in a stadium and see all those flashes coming from the nosebleed seats? Like one day the person is going to treasure the video of these teeny-tiny figures on a tiny stage with lousy sound. And what do these people think a flash from a smartphone from 1/4 mile away is going to do?
    I might be seeing Alice Cooper this Friday at a large venue in Manchester as the ticket holder might be unavailable - as nearly all of the rock gigs I attended took place before mobiles became de rigueur I suppose I have that 'joy' to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    Ever been to a big pop concert in a stadium and see all those flashes coming from the nosebleed seats? Like one day the person is going to treasure the video of these teeny-tiny figures on a tiny stage with lousy sound. And what do these people think a flash from a smartphone from 1/4 mile away is going to do?
    Well, the flash is pointless, but the photo would be a memento, like a ticket stub. No, I didn't try to snap a picture when I saw Karajan conduct Bruckner 8 with the WPO, but I do still have the stub.

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    I cannot imagine an audience member using a phone during a classical concert. Where I come from, people on the neighbouring seats would just bully the insolence out of this son of Ham.
    Last edited by Fabulin; Oct-01-2019 at 21:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    Well, the flash is pointless, but the photo would be a memento, like a ticket stub...
    Well maybe. I’m betting by far most of them are never looked at again (talking about those where the figures are teeny-tiny as opposed to front row seats).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    Isn't there an announcement before concerts to turn cell phones off?
    Well, at the venue at which we see all of our performances, yes. They announce that both cameras and cell phones are prohibited prior to every performance. I've never seen anybody try to defy the ban, so I can't say what they would do in that case.

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    I've played dozens of concerts in China and they don't put up with this behavior at all. In some venues they actually post people in catwalks above the proscenium with laser pointers. They watch the audience and if they see someone with a cell phone out they shine the laser light right onto their faces. As a performer it's kind of funny to watch as people get zapped.

    In Beijing at the big hall, the audience must pass through metal detectors and surrender all electronics. They put your phone in a marked bag and give you a tag to recover it when you leave. They are very efficient and the process moves quickly.

    I still have vivid memories of an angered, irate, furious Antal Dorati conducting the Mahler 5th with the Stockholm orchestra turning around in the 2nd movement to scold a stupid kid who was taking flash photos. "Stop that! Get your *** out of here!!!".

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