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    What would be the point?

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    Of course not!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Rock View Post
    I never get rid of any music because something the composer or performer did. It does not affect my enjoyment of the music one bit.
    Then of course the OP's question does not apply to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydnguy View Post
    What would be the point?
    Then of course the OP's question does not apply to you.
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    "Are You getting rid of any Placido Domingo CDs because of his recent actions?"

    If I had a Placido Domingo CD (I don't) I'd jump up and down on it with great vigor, try to snap it in half (failing unfortunately), douse it with charcoal starter and burn it, all the while shouting my rage at the sky. Take that, Placido you putz!

    When all that was over, a bowl of ice cream might be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Goodall was a well documented and committed nazi supporter, apologist and anti-Semite. Gieseking? I have no idea.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Goodall
    He was a Nazi sympathizer, but I saw nothing explicit about any anti-Semitism.

    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    The Wiki article on Gieseking addresses this. It appears he was a strong Nazi supporter. As late as 1949 his US tour had to be canceled due to protests.
    The WIKI article does not specifically address the issue of any anti-Semitism on Goodall's part.
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    The attitudes expressed in this thread seem blithe and unconcerned, compared to the other thread "Placido Domingo accused...":

    Consider this reaction from the other thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    We like to pretend that this was all acceptable x number of years ago. It wasn't. It never has been. Decent people have always recognized how sleazy it is - but there was in those days a critical mass of people willing to cover it up. If it were acceptable then, these men would not have tried to keep it quiet. While there is certainly an opportunity for this to go too far, and for people to be falsely accused, the egregiousness of this type of behavior, so long unpunished, allows perhaps a certain degree of backlash now that should be tolerated. By all means, he should be able to state his case, give his rebuttal. But if it turns out he did this, then his station in life should have no bearing. We are passed the days when people like Roman Polanski - a fugitive on the run to avoid jail time for sexually violating a teenage girl - get awards and people applaud them, and justify their evils because of some notion of their artistic contributions washing away those sins.

    Sadly, this kind of predatory sexual activity is being exposed as all too common, not in any particular group, but rather in men who reach a certain level of power in whatever field they find themselves in.

    I hope any who have done this and have thus far gotten away with it are currently crapping their pants. It's time for them to experience the fear for a change.

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    The only way I would even consider getting rid of a performer's CDs is if I suddenly fell out of love with his/her singing or interpretive style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    If I had a Placido Domingo CD (I don't) I'd jump up and down on it with great vigor, try to snap it in half (failing unfortunately), douse it with charcoal starter and burn it, all the while shouting my rage at the sky. Take that, Placido you putz! When all that was over, a bowl of ice cream might be nice.
    Mmmm, nice! And what would you be wearing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellinilover View Post
    The only way I would even consider getting rid of a performer's CDs is if I suddenly fell out of love with his/her singing or interpretive style.
    Regardless of the accusations?

    Their may be feminists who would disagree, and would get rid of their Placido Domingo recordings.

    There may be Jewish listeners who would get rid of Elisabeth Schwarzkopf recordings:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Schwarzkopf

    Likewise, with Walter Giesking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Gieseking#Career

    So, aren't you actually unintentionally supporting such people by buying their recordings, regardless of how you personally feel?

    Your actions have consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    So, aren't you actually unintentionally supporting such people by buying their recordings, regardless of how you personally feel?
    Perhaps the performers have already been paid a fixed fee and have no financial interest in further sales of recordings. Or perhaps they are dead, and only their blameless descendants earn any residual. A bit of research may be in order before making your decision!

    Or perhaps (yawn) life is simply too short for this sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Perhaps the performers have already been paid a fixed fee and have no financial interest in further sales of recordings. Or perhaps they are dead, and only their blameless descendants earn any residual.
    Not financial support; I'm talking about supporting the artist's legacy ​by owning and supporting their recorded legacy.
    Last edited by millionrainbows; Oct-04-2019 at 03:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    Not financial support; I'm talking about supporting the artist's legacy ​by owning and supporting their recorded legacy.
    If I want to limit my listening with an eye to not supporting some musician's "artistic legacy," the only person losing out is myself. No thanks to that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Or perhaps (yawn) life is simply too short for this sort of thing.
    Pretty much. I leave it to the self-righteous and the faint-hearted to investigate the less admirable behaviors of artists, which are not hard to find, and to punish the sinners by basing their listening and record-buying on their scale of disapproval. Give me my Schwarzkopf, my Gieseking, my Domingo, my Levine, my whoever, and don't bug me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amfortas View Post
    I haven't gotten rid of any CDs or DVDs featuring Domingo.

    But I haven't invited him over for drinks, either.
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