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    Default Are you musically conservative, moderate, or liberal?

    Are you musically conservative, moderate, or liberal?

    I thought this might be an interesting thread to get the ball rolling for some interesting discussions.

    I would say that I'm musically moderate. I like a lot of conservative music, but I also enjoy some very liberal music as well.

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    I like older and newer ideas, really. I don't know what to put as my answer, but I'm pretty sure I'm not conservative musically...
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    Uhhhh, does that mean "openness" to different types of music, sub-genres, musical ideas, etc.? If so, then I'm very open in that way. Liberal, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by World Violist View Post
    I like older and newer ideas, really. I don't know what to put as my answer, but I'm pretty sure I'm not conservative musically...
    Than you fall somewhere in the middle, like me, which means you're moderate.

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    "Liberal" music, lol, I haven't heard that kind of term before. "Progressive", "radical" or "avant-garde" music is probably a better term.
    "Conservative" and "progressive", whether political or musical, need a time and a place to mean anything. I would be conservative in contemporary art music scene, because my favorite style of western art music is late/post romantic, but I would be probably a "radical" in 1800's or something. Though I do like Stravinsky and Bartók somewhat, so I wouldn't be that conservative necessarily. If I'd form a band playing "popular" (=non-classical) music, my music would be probably considered progressive and experimental in comparison to other rock/metal/etc. bands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    "Liberal" music, lol, I haven't heard that kind of term before. "Progressive", "radical" or "avant-garde" music is probably a better term.
    "Conservative" and "progressive", whether political or musical, need a time and a place to mean anything. I would be conservative in contemporary art music scene, because my favorite style of western art music is late/post romantic, but I would be probably a "radical" in 1800's or something. Though I do like Stravinsky and Bartók somewhat, so I wouldn't be that conservative necessarily. If I'd form a band playing "popular" (=non-classical) music, my music would be probably considered progressive and experimental in comparison to other rock/metal/etc. bands.
    So are you musically conservative, moderate, or liberal? Looks like another vote for moderate.

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    I'm definitively conservaitve. Not in general, but when it comes to classical, I'm extremely conservative. Classical music is about traditions, there is no place for avant-garde. Avant-garde music is totally okay with me, but I belive it doesn't belong to classical genre. One question: what makes the modern classical piece classical? It has to conform to academic standards, right? Those standards are still changing, because some people want classical genre to engulf forthcoming music. I don't think that's right. Of course, classical music can't stand still and never change - but avant-garde music rejects everything what was before. When romanticism came it was basing on classical achivements, so was classicism and baroque, baroque and renaissance... one evolved from another. Avant-garde "classical" music makes a cut between modern music and the past. After this cut we are convicted to intellectual regime of academic standards, and the whole freedom of creating music seem to be illusion HELL, THAT SOUND QUITE CLEVER, DOESN'T IT?

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    Probably quite moderate really..
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    Moderate here too.

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    I would say im very conservative in my tastes, i dont easily like new types of music.

    But i voted moderate, because I think that Im very open to modern techniques, timbres and harmonies, but i stille prefer tonal music and im not a big fan of symphonies for 100 metronomes or the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emiellucifuge View Post
    I voted moderate, because I think that Im very open to modern techniques, timbres and harmonies, but i stille prefer tonal music and im not a big fan of symphonies for 100 metronomes or the like.
    I'm the same way. I'm very much into tonal music, but I like composers who aren't afraid to adding dissonances to their music as a means to get a point across. I look at dissonance as more of an orchestral tool rather than a way to composer music. It's just an effect like a trill or a staccato plucked note from a stringed instrument.

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    I would probably consider myself a moderate. I don't particularly enjoy all forms of experimentation and I really don't like experimentation for the sake of it just to push boundaries. Some modern compositions are just...well, unlistenable in my opinion. Not that they might perhaps work on an "academic" level but the average listener is left behind. I'm not against dissonance though. Like Mirror Image I prefer it to be used for effect. As you can see my avatar is Nielsen, who I love, and his music can be very romantic and modern. To my ears he has the right balance in the use of dissonance. I will listen to almost anything at least once but I would say my taste generally leans toward the classical, romantic, late romantic and neo-romantic, with enough modern to make life interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Pearson View Post
    I would probably consider myself a moderate. I don't particularly enjoy all forms of experimentation and I really don't like experimentation for the sake of it just to push boundaries. Some modern compositions are just...well, unlistenable in my opinion. Not that they might perhaps work on an "academic" level but the average listener is left behind. I'm not against dissonance though. Like Mirror Image I prefer it to be used for effect. As you can see my avatar is Nielsen, who I love, and his music can be very romantic and modern. To my ears he has the right balance in the use of dissonance. I will listen to almost anything at least once but I would say my taste generally leans toward the classical, romantic, late romantic and neo-romantic, with enough modern to make life interesting!

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    I complete agree with you Kevin. I think experimentation for it's own sake really never produces good music. It may be amusing for the composer or the musicians playing it, but for an audience, I think it doesn't really do that much and causes negative reactions instead of positive ones.

    I remember my Grandfather telling me he went to see the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra (he has season tickets) and they played Schoenberg's "Violin Concerto." He sat through it, but he said he never heard such in his words "garbage." If it had been me, I wouldn't even have been at that concert.

    By the way, I love Nielsen. I still think even after all the recordings that have been made he's quite underrated.

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    I put liberal. I certainly don't listen to avant-garde music to the exclusion of more traditional music, but I've thoroughly enjoyed the works of the likes of Stravinsky, Glass, and Ligeti despite being relatively new to classical music.

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    I voted liberal.
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